Verbal Mechanics

SanDiegoSteve · #29 (**permalink**) Fri Jan 20, 2006, 04:14pm

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Originally posted by bob jenkins

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Originally posted by LDUB

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Originally posted by BigUmp56
I provided you with the rule. Now you're sounding like a rat. After the play is killed it's up to the judgement of the umpire to place the runners. There's no rule defining judgement.

Tim.

There is no rule defining judgement, but your judgement sucks.

Here is what is happened:

F2 laying face down.
No one else near plate.
R2 rounding third base.

How is R2 not going to score? Who is going to tag him out?

Also...You are the rat like one, you called time to protect a player, who may or may not have been in jeapordy.

It sounds to me like F2 is blocking the plate while not in posession of the ball (or about to recieve a throw) -- I'd rule obstruction and award the run.

Now, change the play so R2 rounds third just as the F3 fields the throw from the outfield. F2 and F3 converge on the plate and the injured F2. Here, I'd be more likely to kill the play and return R2 to third.

Bob,

The runner was rounding third as F8 was throwing the ball. What makes you think there wasn't going to be a train wreck at the plate. I can picture F1 trying to pull F2 off the plate to make a play.

Like I said if this was adult league baseball, I let the play continue. I sure don't want the liability of letting the play go on with a minor child possibly seriously injured sprawled across the plate.

And how could that be obstruction when R2 is still rounding third? Are you awarding "imaginary obstruction" because there may be a play at the plate? I would think you would have to wait and see if F2 hasn't been rolled out of the way.

Killing the play and putting the runners at first and third just makes more sense. If the play had read, "the catcher was hit in the head, but got up as R2 was rounding 3rd" then I would let the play continue.