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Rich Wed Nov 02, 2005 02:44pm

What a buffoon.


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2211528

BigUmp56 Wed Nov 02, 2005 03:01pm

Idiot!!
 

<fontcolor=#0000FF"> "Roorda said his idea grew out of his frustration with umpires in the National League Championship Series."<font/>


No hidden agenda in this statement, now is there.


Tim.

Rich Ives Wed Nov 02, 2005 03:17pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser
What a buffoon.


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2211528

If the story is correct, they already tax the players - why not the umpires?

SanDiegoSteve Wed Nov 02, 2005 03:25pm

Consider the source. I look just behind his name. D- Missouri. The rest of the story then becomes a joke.

BigUmp56 Wed Nov 02, 2005 03:56pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich Ives
Quote:

Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser
What a buffoon.


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2211528

If the story is correct, they already tax the players - why not the umpires?

Rich,

I can't speak with certainty about how the players are taxed, but I would imagine their taxed in their state of primary employment.

I'm sure the umpires are paying state tax somewhere. If I had to guess, I would think it's in their state of residency.

JMO- Tim.

Rich Ives Wed Nov 02, 2005 04:12pm

Depends on the state. Some of them (NY is one) have a non-resident income tax on earnings earned in NY. I'm not sure if it's for having your primary place of employment in NY or for all income earned in NY. If a NY Yankee or Mets player lives in NJ or CT, they pay NY income tax at the non-resident rate.


See

http://www.moga.state.mo.us/statutes...1430000183.HTM


for the Missouri statute.

[Edited by Rich Ives on Nov 2nd, 2005 at 04:21 PM]

jicecone Wed Nov 02, 2005 04:36pm

Quote:

Originally posted by SanDiegoSteve
Consider the source. I look just behind his name. D- Missouri. The rest of the story then becomes a joke.
Would R-Missouri have meant anything different. Or how about the white lawmaker from Missouri. What the heck are you trying to say?

A STUPID PERSON, GENERALLY MAKES STUPID STATEMENTS.

Don't we?

SanDiegoSteve Wed Nov 02, 2005 06:30pm

Quote:

Originally posted by jicecone
Quote:

Originally posted by SanDiegoSteve
Consider the source. I look just behind his name. D- Missouri. The rest of the story then becomes a joke.
Would R-Missouri have meant anything different. Or how about the white lawmaker from Missouri. What the heck are you trying to say?

A STUPID PERSON, GENERALLY MAKES STUPID STATEMENTS.

Don't we?

Yes R-Arizona would have drawn the same response. A politician, basically. When they start trying to shove legislation down our throats, I tune them out. Arnold is doing the same thing in California, that is, trying to shove new bills down our throats.

jicecone Wed Nov 02, 2005 06:43pm

Quote:

Originally posted by SanDiegoSteve
Quote:

Originally posted by jicecone
Quote:

Originally posted by SanDiegoSteve
Consider the source. I look just behind his name. D- Missouri. The rest of the story then becomes a joke.
Would R-Missouri have meant anything different. Or how about the white lawmaker from Missouri. What the heck are you trying to say?

A STUPID PERSON, GENERALLY MAKES STUPID STATEMENTS.

Don't we?

Yes R-Arizona would have drawn the same response. A politician, basically. When they start trying to shove legislation down our throats, I tune them out. Arnold is doing the same thing in California, that is, trying to shove new bills down our throats.

Well I apologize then, because I thought you were differentiating between a Rep or Dem. But you are SOOOOO Right.

bluezebra Wed Nov 02, 2005 07:08pm

Just another stupid statement by a stupid, grandstanding politician. It wasn't the first time. It won't be the last.

Bob

SanDiegoSteve Wed Nov 02, 2005 09:27pm

Sorry for the confusion. Some of my best friends are Democrats:D

Rich Wed Nov 02, 2005 09:40pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich Ives
Quote:

Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser
What a buffoon.


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2211528

If the story is correct, they already tax the players - why not the umpires?

Why not the ticket takers in Kansas City who live in Kansas?

Tim C Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:32pm

Well Rich,
 
I live in a "boarder" community to Washington State.

All our craft employees that live on the Washington State side of the Columbia River are taxed, by Oregon, for every dollar they earn in this state.

I would rather review quickly this gentleman's "reason" for the tax. It appears rather obvious that he has based it as a "penalty tax" motivated by umpire performance.

As we all learned in basic polysci no tax that is established as a punishment is ever effective.

Every politician is looking for new revenue streams. Especially if those that are forced to pay them have no recourse at the ballot box.

Tee

Rich Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:28pm

Re: Well Rich,
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tim C
I live in a "boarder" community to Washington State.

All our craft employees that live on the Washington State side of the Columbia River are taxed, by Oregon, for every dollar they earn in this state.

I would rather review quickly this gentleman's "reason" for the tax. It appears rather obvious that he has based it as a "penalty tax" motivated by umpire performance.

As we all learned in basic polysci no tax that is established as a punishment is ever effective.

Every politician is looking for new revenue streams. Especially if those that are forced to pay them have no recourse at the ballot box.

Tee

See "rental car" and "hotel" taxes for GREAT examples. Try renting a car in Seattle once -- the taxes are 50% of the rate.

GarthB Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:40pm

<b>See "rental car" and "hotel" taxes for GREAT examples. Try renting a car in Seattle once -- the taxes are 50% of the rate.</b>

That hasn't been my experience and I rent a car at Seatac at least twelve times a year. I'll check my last receipt and figure the percentage.

However, when I went to the Desert Classic last year, the combined taxes on the rental at Phoenix International increased the rental by over 65%. That included a special tax for their new football stadium and the traditional screw the tourist taxes by the state, city and county.

[Edited by GarthB on Nov 2nd, 2005 at 11:44 PM]


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