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Old Fri Sep 23, 2005, 06:23am
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nickrego,

Then you must be using the wrong helmet or not adjusting it to fit with the hat.

Post some pictures? What, you don't believe you can wear a hat with the helmet? Your analogy regarding the ballon over the internal doesn't really apply either. Is a traditional MASK designed for using with a hat only? Uhh, no I think the MASK would work fine with just you HEAD!

Hey, use the helmet or use the mask, whichever you like. But don't make up reasons for not using either. They both work well.

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Old Fri Sep 23, 2005, 09:43am
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Why would you EVER adjust the fit of the helmet to accommodate a hat?

The proper way to wear a helmet is WITHOUT a hat -- as Nick said, the padding is designed to fit the head, not fit over a cap. The only reason some idiotic state or local associations are requiring hats is to discourage the use of helmets. No other reason.

I have both and use both, depending on my mood and depending on how hot it is outside. I think the helmet is hotter than the mask with hat and there's nothing to catch the sweat that my hat catches, but I'm not about to wear the helmet with a hat.
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Old Fri Sep 23, 2005, 10:00am
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I have to second what Rich says on two fronts.

1) The HSM should not be worn with a hat. It really isn't meant to be worn that way and kinda defeats the purpose IMHO.

2) One of the drawbacks to a HSM is, for those who sweat alot (and I'm one of them), the HSM does not do as good a job of absorbing sweat versus the wool cap. I find myself needing to bring a sweat towel and use it between innings to keep the sweat from becoming an issue.

Rich, I have toyed with the idea of replacing the sweat band in my All-Star with a thicker more absorbent material. I may just do that for next season. If successful, I'll let you know how it works out.
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Old Fri Sep 23, 2005, 04:41pm
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I have been using a Golf Towel, hanging on the backstop by the hook that comes with a Golf Towel, ever since I started umpiring. And I started out wearing a mask. I was taught to do this by one of the more experienced umpires of my first association. Many others in my association have picked up on doing this (and they all wear masks).

I ordered 5 extra Sweat Pads from All-Star. I then sewed them together, along with the one that came in the helmet, in pairs so I have 3 nice thick pads, which work much better than the stock single pad (I sweat alot). I also ordered two extra chin pads. I change pad sets between games.

Also, the cooling feature of helmets are specifcally designed for a head with no cap, and a breeze provied by the baseball gods. If you have a cap on, you are going to overheat...period. Now you have a cap and a helmet holding the heat in your head.
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