The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Baseball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #16 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jul 25, 2005, 03:09pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Idaho
Posts: 1,474
Whole heartedly - AGREED

Quote:
Originally posted by EMD
I never answer that questions, why give a coach something he can use against you later. I watched a game when the PU provided a definition of "his zone." When a coach disagreed he hollered, "That wasn't a strike in the pre-game!"

After watching that conversation for 3 innings, I decided never give more information to a coach than required. Besides, we all read the same rule book.
I can't agree more. It just gives them something to gouge you with. The first time your perception differs from theirs you are going to hear about it... so why try to define your perception?

It only takes a few pitches to find out so let's wait until they happen.
__________________
"There are no superstar calls. We don't root for certain teams. We don't cheat. But sometimes we just miss calls." - Joe Crawford
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jul 25, 2005, 06:36pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 79
why not be honest?

Quote:
Originally posted by greymule
Why not be honest?

"It depends on the overall quality of the pitching and hitting, the score, the count, the outs, how far the game has progressed, my mood at the time of the pitch, and whether the pitch involves anyone who has been mouthing off."
Because of the exact reason that EMD had in his post. But I can go one better, I had the pleasure of doing the field in a game that the PU did this. During the plate meeting, and I quote; "..., I want your guys swinging, strikes will be shoulders to the knees, and a couple of ball widths of each side of the plate."

I almost choked, we then preceded to play a very looooooooong game because he actually didn't call anywhere near a big of a strike zone as he indicated.

The rats get enough material to argue about on their own, why should I give them more to work with?
__________________
Scott
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jul 25, 2005, 07:57pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 1,107
Re: What's your Strike Zone?

Quote:
Originally posted by Striker991
"Hey Blue! What's your Strike Zone?"

Any pitch that is not in the ball zone!
i like this one haha
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jul 25, 2005, 08:47pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,643
Re: why not be honest?

Quote:
Originally posted by bbump82
The rats get enough material to argue about on their own, why should I give them more to work with?
Because you feel like ejecting someone.
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jul 26, 2005, 12:57am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,718
My reply always was, "I don't have one. I quit playing years ago. If you want to know the definition of the strike zone, read the rule book. If you want me to hold a clinic on the rules, we'll do it after the game, and I charge $20 an hour".

Bob
Reply With Quote
  #21 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jul 26, 2005, 11:04am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 79
Re: Re: why not be honest?

Quote:
Originally posted by LDUB
Quote:
Originally posted by bbump82
The rats get enough material to argue about on their own, why should I give them more to work with?
Because you feel like ejecting someone.
LDUB, that would be a good reason, but I still don't think I will start discussing it at the plate. As far as dumping, from what I have read on this site in the past, I don't do enough of it. I don't work an awful lot of games, but in the five years that I have been officiating, I've only dumped two people (one coach & one player). I had one a couple of weeks ago that was close. Was commenting on my zone to the point that I asked him if he wanted to argue about it. He realized where I was going and decided he wanted to stay. Smart, who said you can't teach a rat something?
__________________
Scott
Reply With Quote
  #22 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jul 26, 2005, 11:36am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 2,729
Hmmm,

Well when Doug Harvey was asked his strike zone he kept it simple:

And "God" said: "If I like it, it is a strike!"

Nuff said for me.

[Edited by Tim C on Jul 26th, 2005 at 12:48 PM]
Reply With Quote
  #23 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jul 26, 2005, 12:42pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Little Elm, TX (NW Dallas)
Posts: 4,047
bbump, please contact http://www.comedy.com and purchase a sense of humor.
__________________
"Many baseball fans look upon an umpire as a sort of necessary evil to the luxury of baseball, like the odor that follows an automobile." - Hall of Fame Pitcher Christy Mathewson
Reply With Quote
  #24 (permalink)  
Old Wed Jul 27, 2005, 02:20am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 842
Send a message via AIM to cowbyfan1 Send a message via Yahoo to cowbyfan1
Quote:
Originally posted by tornado
Hittable pitches.
Wow! I really hope your definition of a hittable pitch is different than mine.
__________________
Jim

Need an out, get an out. Need a run, balk it in.
Reply With Quote
  #25 (permalink)  
Old Wed Jul 27, 2005, 07:26am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 29
"Tell them to come up prepared to swing the bats."
__________________
Rich Coyle
Reply With Quote
  #26 (permalink)  
Old Wed Jul 27, 2005, 09:02am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sheffield Lake, Ohio
Posts: 340
My son was asked what kind of strike zone I had when a did a game some of his buddies were in. He told them ( and I told him this because I read it somewhere - probably here ), " if my dad is behind the plate, you better be swinging with two strikes ".
I use the same philosophy as was stated earlier by Tee as a quote to Doug Harvey - if I like it, it is a strike.
( that measn it was in MY strike zone and that is good enough for me !)
__________________
Tony Smerk
OHSAA Certified
Class 1 Official
Sheffield Lake, Ohio
Reply With Quote
  #27 (permalink)  
Old Wed Jul 27, 2005, 12:02pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 79
Being funny?

Quote:
Originally posted by mcrowder
bbump, please contact http://www.comedy.com and purchase a sense of humor.
Hey, thanks for the link!

I might have to use it someday, when I actually try to crack a joke.
__________________
Scott
Reply With Quote
  #28 (permalink)  
Old Wed Jul 27, 2005, 01:06pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 54
I worked with several different umpires over the years and found that they generally have a much wider zone than I do although I like to give the pitchers the corners. I probably call a higher strike (letters and knees) but if asked prior to the game, I just tell them that "I call 'em as I see 'em." After the first inning or so, the crabbing usually stops. What it comes down to is when I played as a catcher, I liked the umps who were consistent. If he called a ball below the knee for both teams, then I knew where to set up.
__________________
Stripes1950
Reply With Quote
  #29 (permalink)  
Old Wed Jul 27, 2005, 08:37pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 31
I had to ask myself where my strike zone was during a couple of innings today! Yuck!!
__________________
"Diamonds are a girl's best friend"
Reply With Quote
  #30 (permalink)  
Old Thu Jul 28, 2005, 02:07am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 842
Send a message via AIM to cowbyfan1 Send a message via Yahoo to cowbyfan1
The rare times I have been asked I just reply with either a "your about to see" or "where I call it". Been a couple years since I have heard someone ask that tho.
__________________
Jim

Need an out, get an out. Need a run, balk it in.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:32am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1