My son's team's first round playoffs, I'm keeping the book.
The opposition's B1 squares to bunt, the pitch is low and outside, but PU calls strike on the attempt(it looked to me as if he did try to reach the pitch).

Here's where it gets good...

The offensive manager calls time and appeals the strike call, that B1 did not attempt to bunt. The idiot PU checks with an equally idiotic BU, who signals 'no swing!' The PU reverses his call of strike to ball!

Our manager goes out to the PU and tells him, to no avail, that it's the defense who has appeal rights, not the other way around.

Well regardless what i would have done is say "sir that is my call it is a judgement call you can appele a judgement call sit down and shut up..... play ball"

However as far as a bunt goes i will never ask a BU for that swing question its my judgement if the bat was brought back in time.

What does bringing the bat back in time have to do with anything? The batter has to offer. He can leave the bat out there.....

Golly,
 

Dumbdrum . . .

You've done it again.

Learn the rules then post, Smitty.

I think we can just about bank on dumbrumb posting at least one thing in each post that is either A) in contradiction to the rulebook, B) a known "Dumb-Coach-Cliche" (the kind that every 1st year ump disabuses themselves of in week 1 or 2, or their first real clinic), or C) both.

drumbum,

just so you won't keep getting ripped a new one PLEASE read this link before posting:

http://eteamz.active.com/baseball/rules/obr/myths/

He can?!!?!? :eek:

I started arguing this with a parent today, then realized it wasn't worth my time. From now on, I'll let them live in peaceful oblivion.

(My favorite times are still when I explain a rule to the parents, and then the umpires tell the parents the wrong rule. :rolleyes: Can I just start handing out copies of "40 Baseball Rule Myths" to everyone?)

This is probaly an HTBT, but I'd like the Forum's opinion.
Batter squares with his bat waist-high. As the pitch comes in he sees it's going to be low and he bends at the knees to get down there - the bat never moving forward.
Are you calling strike under the theory that crouching down as the ball comes in lower is "holds the bat in the path of the ball" or "intent"? (2.8.1 FED; 2.00 OBR)

However as far as a bunt goes i will never ask a BU for that swing question its my judgement if the bat was brought back in time.
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Without debating the point. I always allow an appeal. Hey I might get a strike that way and I'm closer to the parking lot. Aside from that you're wrong.

No better way to "steal a strike" (especially when I need one) than when the batter is bobing up and down as the pitch comes over. LOL

Ok I rarely post here.....but please inform me Tee of this Dumbdrum,

SoCalUmp

1..Offense may not appeal call.

2..Strike calls may not be appealed.

3..PU who checks with his BU on a strike call is a dum-dum.

4..A BU who honors the appeal is a double-dum-dum.

Bob

Dumdum.....
You'd tell a coach to "sit down and shut up"? Any association around here would "drum" you out for
having that kind of shi**y attitude.
I'd personally recommend a more tactful way to put
that.

ROTFLMAO

Keep looking for that force for you have nothing but the FARCE with you.

Huh? Run that by me one more time?


5..BU who reverses original strike call, on an offensive appeal, is a triple-dum-dum...or is it drum-bum? Lah me.

I don't know where this thread is going, or who is arguing with who, but here's one point:

A few years ago a kid squared to bunt. The pitch was high, the player ducked, but kept the bat in the zone. I called a strike. The coach wanted a ball because the batter didn't offer. My call stood.

Later that day, I looked in the fed rulebook. By rule, this pitch should have been a ball. The batter has to make an attempt to hit the ball. Otherwise, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THE BAT IS, there is no offer, and the pitch is a ball.

I can see "getting a free strike" by calling a pitch a few inches out of the zone, but those of you who call this one a strike for a freebie don't know the rules well enough.

This post started on the subject of a called strike being questioned by an offensive manager and the crew reversing the call upon conferring. Then it wandered (like most posts do) into what constitutes a strike on a bunt. I think I can summarize.

1) You never change a called strike to ball. You would change a ball to a strike if you ask your partner if he went and he says he did.

2) A batter who turns to bunt must make an attempt to actually make contact with the pitch for a swinging strike to be called.