Balk ends NCAA game

[Bfair]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by David B

Originally posted by Dave Hensley

No one is talking about the final result. I'm talking about that if as an official you are going to call a picky technical balk then it should have been called on the first instance.

Why wait for two balks that you don't call and then call it on the third.

I don't know Mr. Yeast, but I would think that he as I cringed when he saw this call.

I read what the umpire in chief said in the paper, and it was a simple rule quote to back his partner.

The look on his face when he saw the balk called made all the difference.

Then U2 the UIC got stuck having to explain it to the coach. What would you expect him to say, he missed the call?

No by rule it was a good call. But as far as the game, it was a poor call in a very very good baseball game.

Thanks
David

You mentioned in your earlier post, David, that F1 had 2 previous pitches where he apparently did not come to a good stop...........

Sounds like the crew chief missed the balk on 3 of the 4 pitches made........but, of course, supports his partner for making the call

Politically correct?????? (Aaaaarrrgggghhhhh)


Just my opinion,

Freix

[DownTownTonyBrown]

Originally posted by Bfair


You mentioned in your earlier post, David, that F1 had 2 previous pitches where he apparently did not come to a good stop...........

Sounds like the crew chief missed the balk on 3 of the 4 pitches made........but, of course, supports his partner for making the call

Politically correct?????? (Aaaaarrrgggghhhhh)


Just my opinion,

Freix

Wonder how many others he missed during the game... perhaps some that would have been appropriately called for the situation at that time.

Oh well, I'm going over to read Carl's 1800 words.

[DownTownTonyBrown]

For those of you that have gotten there yet

http://baseball.officiating.com/x/article/4415

Here are Carl's conclusions (minus 1761 words)...

• If the pitcher didn’t stop, it was a balk, intentional walk notwithstanding.
  
  The game situation (win/loss on the line) should have no effect on the decision to penalize the balk.
  
  If your supervisor says call it, do so.

I think the third item may have been what really prompted the umpire to make the call.

Perhaps he didn't miss the previous balks;I really don't know. When in position B or C, I talk to my pitchers. And if I saw previous balks I probably would have said, "Make sure you get a stop in there." And next time, "You missed stopping on that last pitch. Make sure you get a stop in there." And finally, after reminding him on the previous two pitches, (okay you dumbass) "THAT'S A BALK!"

Oops. Game over.

[mcrowder]

DTTB - surely you don't give that many warnings in an NCAA game. I can see that at 12U or subpar 14U, but HS or NCAA - nope.

[DownTownTonyBrown]

Your right. Surely not at the level of this particular game.

[jumpmaster]

I am not a NCAA umpire and there may be an AO that further defines the following...[portions are omitted for brevity]

9-1b
The set position shall be indicated when the pitcher stands...holding the ball in both hands in front of the body and coming to a complete and discernable stop...any natural mostion associated with the pitch commits the pitcher to pitch...
PENALTY Warning on first offense. Illegal pitch shall be call on subsequent offenses.

9-1b2
The pitcher shall deliver the pitch from a set position only after coming to a complete and discernable stop with his entire body.
PENALTY a "balk" shall be called.

9-3
A balk shall be called for the following action by a pitcher:
d. making an illegal pitch...
PENALTY balk

My deduction is that there is a rule book directive to warn on the first offense. However, the NCAA umpires that I know have made it clear to me that the warning should not be to the tune of bells and whistles, rather indiscreet is acceptable and preferred.