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Kaliix Sun May 29, 2005 02:13pm

I've read this board just about every day since I found it a little over a year ago. There are always occasional posts of a simple nature that could be answered by just looking at the rule book.

It it is only my opinion, but these posts have not increased in frequency. They are bound to show up every once in a while. Answer them in one post. Even tell them to go read the rule book while you do it. Just don't keep posting to the thread and make it go on for three pages. The more people keep posting to the thread, the more popular it becomes. You thus increase the chance that someone will see it, think it's normal and therefore encourage them to post more. Better yet, ignore the post completely and they'll get the message. Either of the previous two options is better than drawing attention to it.

Yet that is what you guys keep doing. And you don't get that you are only defeating your own purpose by continuing to respond.


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Originally posted by LDUB
Quote:

Originally posted by Kaliix
Some people just don't get it.
You are correct, except you are the one who dosen't get it. This goes a lot deeper than ignoring a post every month or two. Eventually this board will be overrun with threads similar to this one. Go to eteamz and try and try to figure out which of the threads are not LL/coach posts.

I just checked eteamz, the first post on the list similar to this one, a post about a simple rule, and the second post is about if the batter's hands are part of the bat or not. Do you want this fourm to turn into that? At the rate this board is going, it dosen't have much time untill it is just another eteamz.


LDUB Sun May 29, 2005 06:43pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaliix
It it is only my opinion, but these posts have not increased in frequency.
You can't be serious.

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaliix
The more people keep posting to the thread, the more popular it becomes. You thus increase the chance that someone will see it, think it's normal and therefore encourage them to post more. Better yet, ignore the post completely and they'll get the message. Either of the previous two options is better than drawing attention to it.
So a new poster is going to read this thread, see how there are many people here who flame "bad" posts, and then decided that this is a good place to post another "bad" post?

And you can look back and see that the only person who actually answered the orignal question was a coach. Every other poster is just complaing about the "bad" post in one way or another.

Kaliix Sun May 29, 2005 11:44pm

Actually, I am serious. If I cared enough to read through the threads for the past year and do a statistical analysis, I might be able to prove it. That's not going to happen so it is only my opinion.

You assume these guys know what a bad post is and that they have no desire to see you guys go ballastic and leave the board so they can take over.

If a couple of silly posts is all they need to take over the board, with the response that you guys are giving them, they are half way home...

pardon the pun...

Quote:

Originally posted by LDUB
Quote:

Originally posted by Kaliix
It it is only my opinion, but these posts have not increased in frequency.
You can't be serious.

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaliix
The more people keep posting to the thread, the more popular it becomes. You thus increase the chance that someone will see it, think it's normal and therefore encourage them to post more. Better yet, ignore the post completely and they'll get the message. Either of the previous two options is better than drawing attention to it.
So a new poster is going to read this thread, see how there are many people here who flame "bad" posts, and then decided that this is a good place to post another "bad" post?

And you can look back and see that the only person who actually answered the orignal question was a coach. Every other poster is just complaing about the "bad" post in one way or another.


PS2Man Mon May 30, 2005 10:19am

I am also a person that does not come here that often. I do not read every post or every response in a post. I just respond to what I find interesting. I guess some people have more time on their hands.

Heydt Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:20am

Funny
 
A google search on another topic led to my discovery of this fine site.

Browsing this forum drew my attention to a rather popular (4 pages) discussion of this seemingly simple rule.

Funny, how this forum turns out to be no different that any other forum ever, eteams, or otherwise. Every hole with an opinion (including me - thanks for drawing me into this mire, btw) needs to share it. And I do not need to know how long its been here, to know that it has been like this from the first week.

How much cooler would this forum be, and how much more successful, and how perfect would our world be, if this thread had only one response: the correct answer.

We could then spend our days in pursuit of knowledge, instead of trolling bbs, fighting such brave anonymous battles, always secure that we are the only one that is right, even though 20+ people, many perhaps distinctively brighter, tell me I am wrong.


Funny, before I could post a reply today, I had to agree to some things, among them, the following:

"The Official Forum was created by Right Sports, Inc. and is intended to provide a safe haven for officials of all levels to come to discuss their avocation. Whether Little League or NCAA, this is the place for officials to discuss rules, mechanics, philosophy, and anything else related to officiating.

Fans, Coaches, Players, and all non-officials: You are welcome to participate, ask questions, give comments, etc. Please respect that this is a discussion forum for sports officials - attacks will not be tolerated."


Little League is fine, and no attacks. Huh, how about that?

So, Tee, or whoever, apparently, you have long been in a place you don't understand from day one. You are not the boss of anybody.

See? I am always right. As usual.

Tim C Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:43am

And,
 
You have every right to post anything you want . . . just allow me the same freedom.

And Hey, I understand this site quite well, but thanks.

Join the paid site and read some of my columns . . .

Next up: "What To Do When Working with Smitty or Working With a Poorly Trained Partner"

And please, don't even try to compare this site to eTeamSleeze.

Kaliix Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:15am

Re: And,
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tim C
And please, don't even try to compare this site to eTeamSleeze.
Why not Tee? Is that right reserved soley for you??? ;)

Jurassic Referee Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:45pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Tim C
You have every right to post anything you want . . . just allow me the same freedom.

And Hey, I understand this site quite well, but thanks.

<font color = red>Join the paid site and read some of my columns . . .

Next up: "What To Do When Working with Smitty or Working With a Poorly Trained Partner"</font>

And please, don't even try to compare this site to eTeamSleeze.

Yeah, they don't continually try to spam ya over on eTeamz.

Couldn't help myself, Tee. :D

Heydt Tue Jun 07, 2005 01:14pm

Funnier Still
 
You've been following this thread since May 21st? Wow. And you promised us you were leaving.


You do have some errors to contend with:

Little League is indeed a valid level for discussion.

Coaches (even fans) are welcome to contribute.

Safe Haven.


Your mean-spirited, condescending response has done nothing but create a two and one-half week argument over an unsupported elitist position that is not consistent with this community or its published standards.

You have yet to address the topic of the thread, any issue that has since arisen, nor your unwillingness to adhere to the policy of tolerance this forum expects.

All you have left is your free-country, free-speech, and apparent free-self-promotion ideal. Strange thing to say, as this lengthy vitriolic thread has developed primarily due to the hypocracy of your first post.

I seem to gather you may have made some positve contributions to this site in the past. Your present negative ones seem more powerful, at the moment.

An apology, even at this point, might demonstrate some amount of character.

Any man can err. Please reconsider your position on the matter, or else keep your word.


LDUB Tue Jun 07, 2005 02:02pm

Re: Funnier Still
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Heydt
An apology, even at this point, might demonstrate some amount of character.
I just talked to Tee on the phone.

He said he will apologize right after he finishes his LL triple header and checks etemaz for new posts.

GarthB Tue Jun 07, 2005 02:11pm

Re: Funnier Still
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Heydt
You've been following this thread since May 21st? Wow. And you promised us you were leaving.


You do have some errors to contend with:

Little League is indeed a valid level for discussion.

Coaches (even fans) are welcome to contribute.

Safe Haven.


Your mean-spirited, condescending response has done nothing but create a two and one-half week argument over an unsupported elitist position that is not consistent with this community or its published standards.

You have yet to address the topic of the thread, any issue that has since arisen, nor your unwillingness to adhere to the policy of tolerance this forum expects.

All you have left is your free-country, free-speech, and apparent free-self-promotion ideal. Strange thing to say, as this lengthy vitriolic thread has developed primarily due to the hypocracy of your first post.

I seem to gather you may have made some positve contributions to this site in the past. Your present negative ones seem more powerful, at the moment.

An apology, even at this point, might demonstrate some amount of character.

Any man can err. Please reconsider your position on the matter, or else keep your word.


Wow. Freaking hilarious. I about split a gut reading this. You should really consider comedy for a living. You're great. Really. All this and it's only your second post. Man, I can't wait until your third post. Keep it coming.

Tim C Tue Jun 07, 2005 02:13pm

Dear Dipstick
 
The word apology does not appear in my lexicon.

Sorry dude, I "yam what I yam" . . . and that will never change.

But I am so glad you decided to drop in here and spread some graffiti.

LDUB thanks for the call . . . we had rain.

David B Tue Jun 07, 2005 02:20pm

Re: Funnier Still
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Heydt
You've been following this thread since May 21st? Wow. And you promised us you were leaving.


You do have some errors to contend with:

Little League is indeed a valid level for discussion.

Coaches (even fans) are welcome to contribute.

Safe Haven.


Your mean-spirited, condescending response has done nothing but create a two and one-half week argument over an unsupported elitist position that is not consistent with this community or its published standards.

You have yet to address the topic of the thread, any issue that has since arisen, nor your unwillingness to adhere to the policy of tolerance this forum expects.

All you have left is your free-country, free-speech, and apparent free-self-promotion ideal. Strange thing to say, as this lengthy vitriolic thread has developed primarily due to the hypocracy of your first post.

I seem to gather you may have made some positve contributions to this site in the past. Your present negative ones seem more powerful, at the moment.

An apology, even at this point, might demonstrate some amount of character.

Any man can err. Please reconsider your position on the matter, or else keep your word.


Now we're getting somewhere.

A little humor to make my afternoon.

A little word about negative comments - that's how we learn. We're umpires, not a politically correct 5-yr old.

They've been trying that positive mess for years and I can tell you its really working.... (g)

Thanks
David

LMan Tue Jun 07, 2005 03:07pm

wow, can it be WCB sneaking in under new guise? :D

hmmm, nope, WCB would never misspell "hypocrisy." ;)

Otherwise, leftovers from a freshman junior-college sociology class.


Im with GB.....keep the hits coming! Fuh-ny!

*munches some popcorn*

bob jenkins Tue Jun 07, 2005 03:28pm

Re: Dear Dipstick
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tim C
The word apology does not appear in my lexicon.


Look between antagonistic and *******.

(And, no, I'm not referring to you.)



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