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vhs68 Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:57pm

Let me try at clearing this up. The only thing different about a pitch that hits the ground before getting to the plate is that it "cannot be a called strike". Everything else that could happen on a pitch is still in effect.

jl

DG Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:27pm

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Originally posted by vhs68
Let me try at clearing this up. The only thing different about a pitch that hits the ground before getting to the plate is that it "cannot be a called strike". Everything else that could happen on a pitch is still in effect.

jl

Nice try, but if the batter swings at a pitch that hits the ground it can be called a strike.

mbyron Tue Mar 15, 2005 02:15am

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Originally posted by DG
Quote:

Originally posted by vhs68
Let me try at clearing this up. The only thing different about a pitch that hits the ground before getting to the plate is that it "cannot be a called strike". Everything else that could happen on a pitch is still in effect.

jl

Nice try, but if the batter swings at a pitch that hits the ground it can be called a strike.

I think he meant a CALLED STRIKE. If the batter offers and misses, that's a SWINGING STRIKE.

cbfoulds Tue Mar 15, 2005 08:35am

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Originally posted by vhs68
Let me try at clearing this up. The only thing different about a pitch that hits the ground before getting to the plate is that it "cannot be a called strike". Everything else that could happen on a pitch is still in effect.

jl

Well, it also cannot be a "caught" 3d (swinging) strike, EXCEPT [per Evans & (revised) Roder] when it is foul-tipped.

andrewm Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:58am

I'm still going to teach my catcher to tag the batter. Just to be sure. That would be a tough one to argue with an ump.

thumpferee Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:05pm

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Originally posted by DG
Quote:

Originally posted by vhs68
Let me try at clearing this up. The only thing different about a pitch that hits the ground before getting to the plate is that it "cannot be a called strike". Everything else that could happen on a pitch is still in effect.

jl

Nice try, but if the batter swings at a pitch that hits the ground it can be called a strike.

I think what vhs was saying is that it cannot be called a strike after hitting the ground. The batter swung at the pitch, therefore not called a strike but was swung at by the batter, therefore a swinging strike.

A pitch that hits the ground and then enters the strike zone cannot be called a strike!



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