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GarthB Tue Mar 01, 2005 01:28am

<b>To me the Term "FORCE PLAY SLIDE RULE" means you are required to slide on a force play.</b>

That would be Forced Slide Rule. Force Play, refers to the play, not the slide. Fed does not require a slide, ever.

cbfoulds Tue Mar 01, 2005 06:46am

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Originally posted by Gmoore

guys I just ask a question that I never heard of it i have been calling for 5 years been to clinics and I have never heard the term "FPSR" that rule "fpsr" is not in the NFHs rule book in the Playing terms and Definitions nor can i find it in the case book.

When this rule first came in, the Points of Emphasis called it the FPSR; so did the FED Rules slides. I even think there was a heading in the Rule Book with that wording. Naturally, there were the predictable rats thinking that it was a Forced Slide Play Rule, even tho' the "never required to slide" language was there from the start. The FPSR has been around long enough that some [most] of the references have been cleaned out of the book, but if you've "never heard it called that", check out the top of page 55 in th '05 Rule Book [8-4-2 PENALTY]: ...On a force-play slide with less than two outs, ....[my emphasis].

bob jenkins Tue Mar 01, 2005 09:11am

Quote:

Originally posted by Gmoore
To me the Term "FORCE PLAY SLIDE RULE" means you are required to slide on a force play.And in the case book it is only because they made contact due to an illegal slide.



All slides must be legal. On every slide the runner can't roll block into the fielder, can't pop-up into the fielder, must have the leading foot below the knee, etc.

On a force play, there are extra requirements -- must be in a direct line to the base (or away from the fielder), can't go beyond the base and make contact. There are also extra penalties -- two are out.

You are correct however, that it should more properly be called the Force-Play Slide Rule.


TwoBits Tue Mar 01, 2005 09:38am

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Originally posted by Blue37
We understand the player is ejected for malicious contact, he is called out, and the run comes off the board. The unresolved issue was what happens to the batter-runner.


When in FED rules is it stated that the runner can be called out and the run is nullified AFTER he touches home plate in this situation?

bob jenkins Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:42am

Quote:

Originally posted by TwoBits
Quote:

Originally posted by Blue37
We understand the player is ejected for malicious contact, he is called out, and the run comes off the board. The unresolved issue was what happens to the batter-runner.


When in FED rules is it stated that the runner can be called out and the run is nullified AFTER he touches home plate in this situation?

See 2.32.2C and 8.4.2Y (for the force play situation).

See 2.21.1B (for the non-force play situation)


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