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Old Mon Sep 27, 2004, 05:37am
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In this entire thread, fool is the only name I have used and that was after four pages of posts trying to keep this logical and on track.

Look at your quotes below and tell me your not calling names, being "macho" and don't have some sort of inferiority complex going on. I'm also not so sure that your how high your post rates on the "professional scale".

I've tried to keep it straight forward and logical. You guys can't keep it that way because you know, in the end, in the very specific circumstances I have spoken about, you can't argue with the logic.

It's called chaffe, and you guys are doing it well.


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Originally posted by jicecone
I agree, "quit being a wimp."

Your other choices! Go behind the mound or don't do those games.

But for god sakes, "Quit whinning"

Many of you wouldn't last a minute officiating Ice Hockey, where sometimes they can not only, not play, but not skate, not shoot or not check. Then your looking behind you at all times and all ways.

As already implied here, SUCK it up, Shut up, or find a different sport to officiate.
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Old Mon Sep 27, 2004, 07:26am
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All;

I've already stated what I do when the catcher cannot catch: move behind the mound or alter your mechanics to get directly behind the catcher no matter where he is. Yet, with all of the entertainment that we have had with this thread, I thought that I might add one more story from my experience. (In order to create more entertainment, of course.)

I was doing 16-18 year old fall ball game and in the top of the first inning a pitch came in high and inside. I took a shot off the mask and the ball spun the mask off of my face. No one was on base and the catcher made no effort to catch the ball. As it spun off my face, the plastic edge of the mask slid across my cheek and opened up a gash which started bleeding profusely.

The catcher said "Sorry blue, In fall ball, I don't try to stop the ball when no runners are on base."

Since I believe the blood rule applies equally to officials as well as players, I left the game for the emergency room and my partner got to finish it by himself. I have no idea what he did to the catcher but he heard the same remark that I did.

My bill at the emergency room was $450 for three stitches to my face. Since this was early in the fall season, I was unable to work any more fall ball because I could not wear a mask. My personal health insurance deductible was $500, so this all came out of my pocket and the association's inusurance refused to pay. Likewise, the league insurance did not cover umpires.

My total fall pay that year was $280. Therefore, I was in the hole $170 for the fall season. While I have never ejected a catcher who cannot catch, I certainly sympathize with those who advocate that position. For me, I just turn down most of the crap that is offered to me in the fall. I have found that the lackadasical attitude towards fall play is not conducive to good umpiring or safety.

Peter
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Old Mon Sep 27, 2004, 10:09am
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Question What are you telling us?

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Twice, in close to 20 years, I have had catchers miss pitches that I deemed intentional. Both catchers stayed in the game approximately 3-5 seconds after I got hit, with NO questions asked. They knew it and they found out real fast that so did I.
What does this mean?

You recovered in 3-5 seconds and the game continued?

You ejected them within 3-5 seconds?

How did they "find out real fast that" you recognized their lack of a catch as an intentional act?

Does "NO questions asked" mean you tossed them and they didn't say anything or that you left them in and called all balls... or something else?

With the repetition of the "SUCK IT UP" statement, I'm assuming you left these two catchers in the game... but I'm not certain. Not that I would imply that one action or the other tells us anything about the strength of your gender portrayl BUT WHAT ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU DID, once you were intentionally hit?
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