Tell me if I'm wrong

[mcrowder]

I was trying to get poster to describe what he saw, and without saying it in as many words, make him realize that SURELY the umpire standing ON the foulline, 10-20 feet away at most, had a better view of whether that ball was touching the foulline when it was kicked than one would have sitting in the stands.

My point - it may be "obvious" from the stands, but the umpire has a MUCH better line of sight on the ball, and umpire is also aware that if ANY part of the ball is in fair territory (not the majority ... ANY) when it's touched, it's FAIR.

This one sounds like a fair ball to me, even based on the poster's description.

Fields obviously vary from place to place, but I measured last night and put my foot where poster suggested - barely on dirt, parallel to the line, and rolled a ball up against my foot. It was barely foul - by less than an inch. My foot was perfectly parallel and barely off the grass. If fielder's foot was any more than a hair off the grass or anything other than perfectly parallel, there's no room for a ball to be foul when it hits a foot (at least on the field where I did this).