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Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Wed Jul 08, 2020 08:19pm

What do we have?
 
Situation: Offensive Team is in the 1B Dugout; R3, R2, and R1; 0 Outs; and B4 hits a Fly Ball which causes the Ball to pass over the Outfield Fence while over Fair Territory.

Play 1:

1) Offensive Team Players and Substitutes gather around HP as R3, R2, R1, and B4 advance around the Bases.

2) R3 advances toward and touches HP.

3) R2 touches 3B and advances toward HP but stops approximately 6ft short of HP.

4) R1 touches 2B, 3B, and advances toward HP. R1 hi-fives R2 as he passes R2 but stops approximately 3ft short of HP.

5) B4 touches 1B, 2B, 3B, and advances toward HP.

6) B4 hi-fives, in order, R2 and R1, and in doing so passes R2 and R1 before touching HP.

7) R2 and R1 then run pass HP into their Team's Dugout without touching HP with the rest of their Teammates.


Play 2:

1) Offensive Team Players and Substitutes gather around HP as R3, R2, R1, and B4 advance around the Bases.

2) R3 advances toward and passes HP but does not touch HP.

3) R2 touches 3B and advances toward HP but stops approximately 6ft short of HP.

4) R1 touches 2B, 3B, and advances toward HP. R1 hi-fives R2 as he passes R2 but stops approximately 3ft short of HP.

5) B4 touches 1B, 2B, 3B, and advances toward HP.

6) B4 hi-fives, in order, R2 and R1, and in doing so passes R2 and R1 before touching HP.

7) R2 and R1 then run pass HP, without touching HP, into their Team's Dugout with the rest of their Teammates.


What do we have using a) NFHS, b) NCAA, and c) MLB/MiLB/OBR/WBSC Rules?


NOTE: WBSC is the World Baseball Softball Confederation and USA Baseball represents the United States.

bob jenkins Thu Jul 09, 2020 06:40am

Play 1: R3 scores. R1 is out for passing R2. BR is out for passing R2. R2 scores. Twor runs, two outs.

Play 2: Same thing, pending appeal of R3 missing home. If the defense appeals, R3 is out and this is a force out for the third out so no runs score.

All baseball rules.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Jul 09, 2020 03:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 1039032)
Situation: Offensive Team is in the 1B Dugout; R3, R2, and R1; 0 Outs; and B4 hits a Fly Ball which causes the Ball to pass over the Outfield Fence while over Fair Territory.

Play 1:

1) Offensive Team Players and Substitutes gather around HP as R3, R2, R1, and B4 advance around the Bases.

2) R3 advances toward and touches HP.

3) R2 touches 3B and advances toward HP but stops approximately 6ft short of HP.

4) R1 touches 2B, 3B, and advances toward HP. R1 hi-fives R2 as he passes R2 but stops approximately 3ft short of HP.

5) B4 touches 1B, 2B, 3B, and advances toward HP.

6) B4 hi-fives, in order, R2 and R1, and in doing so passes R2 and R1 before touching HP.

7) R2 and R1 then run pass HP into their Team's Dugout without touching HP with the rest of their Teammates.


Play 2:

1) Offensive Team Players and Substitutes gather around HP as R3, R2, R1, and B4 advance around the Bases.

2) R3 advances toward and passes HP but does not touch HP.

3) R2 touches 3B and advances toward HP but stops approximately 6ft short of HP.

4) R1 touches 2B, 3B, and advances toward HP. R1 hi-fives R2 as he passes R2 but stops approximately 3ft short of HP.

5) B4 touches 1B, 2B, 3B, and advances toward HP.

6) B4 hi-fives, in order, R2 and R1, and in doing so passes R2 and R1 before touching HP.

7) R2 and R1 then run pass HP, without touching HP, into their Team's Dugout with the rest of their Teammates.


What do we have using a) NFHS, b) NCAA, and c) MLB/MiLB/OBR/WBSC Rules?


NOTE: WBSC is the World Baseball Softball Confederation and USA Baseball represents the United States.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1039036)
Play 1: R3 scores. R1 is out for passing R2. BR is out for passing R2. R2 scores. Twor runs, two outs.

Play 2: Same thing, pending appeal of R3 missing home. If the defense appeals, R3 is out and this is a force out for the third out so no runs score.

All baseball rules.


Bob:

In Play 1, R2 did not touch HP on his way to his Team's Dugout. Is there not a possible appeal of R2 not touching HP?

MTD, Sr.

bob jenkins Thu Jul 09, 2020 05:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 1039046)
Bob:

In Play 1, R2 did not touch HP on his way to his Team's Dugout. Is there not a possible appeal of R2 not touching HP?

MTD, Sr.

Yes, sorry--I missed that part. R2's out would be the third out and his run would not score. Since he wasn't forced to home, R3's run would still count.


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