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Unusual play
Found this play on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jewBHBP_9g4 What I saw: R1, R2. Double steal. R2 caught in rundown, returns to second. R1 reaches second. Both runners tagged while on second. R1 called out. R2 then runs back to first. Why did R2 run back to first? Is that legal? Also, If R1 stops and R2 "passes" him while returning to a base, is either of them out? |
This was discussed when it happened. R2 should have been out when he returned toward first.
If r2 "passes" R1 while both are between second and third, R1 is out -- it's always the trailing runner who is out for passing. |
I wonder if R2 tried to "vacate" 2nd base to keep R1 from being tagged out (for two-on-a-base), while at the same time, running to first to keep himself from being tagged while off base.
Of course, it wouldn't work, because "passing the runner" would occur, and you'd have an out for that. If R2 steps off the bag (toward 3rd) while R1 is tagged, is R1 still out (for two-on-a-base)? |
Braun was out when he was tagged. But there is nothing in the rules that prohibits a runner from going all the way back to 1st. This is not "running the bases in reverse order" that would indicate a travesty of the game. Segura clearly wasn't sure whether he could be tagged out while staying at 2nd and ran away from the tag. This is a tough play for the umpire. Braun was destined to be out whether he was tagged or Segura left the base towards 1st. But, if he had stepped towards 3rd to protect Braun, Braun wouldn't be out, but Segura could easily be tagged. Actually, on this play, he was tagged and the umpire missed it. These days, they would review it with replay and get it corrected.
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And for the record, he was tagged while off his base, so he should have been out anyway. |
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Rule 5.06(a)/5.06 (c) Comment (Rule 7.01 Comment): If a runner legally acquires title to a base, and the pitcher assumes his pitching position, the runner may not return to a previously occupied base. |
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Are you saying they put this rule in after this took place? If so, then it was wrong when it happened:eek: |
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I took the rule to mean that after the runner legally advanced, and once the pitcher took the rubber, he could no longer EVER retreat to a preceding base? PS:good question to Bob, was wondering same thing. I think he means out once he retreated based on the rule he stated. |
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