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MT 73 Sat Apr 01, 2017 09:29pm

New Rule?
 
I was scimming the 2016 MLBUM and saw that a change was made:
If the B/R misses first on a play but beats the throw the umpire is not supposed to call him safe anymore.
He is supposed to make no call at all and wait for an appeal.
Am I reading this correctly?

Also--I was reading the 2017 NFHS Baseball Casebook and they say an out should not be called if a runner/batter removes his helmet when the ball is live.
Issue a warning and if it happens again eject.
Is this something new or has it always been so?

Rich Ives Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:31pm

So it's now OK to tell the defense the runner missed first?

MT 73 Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 1004147)
So it's now OK to tell the defense the runner missed first?

It says that even if the umpire is now tipping off the defense that an appeal is to be made this is how they want it to be.
When I get b ack home I will post the new interpretation verbatim.

umpjim Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:47am

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT 73 (Post 1004159)
It says that even if the umpire is now tipping off the defense that an appeal is to be made this is how they want it to be.
When I get b ack home I will post the new interpretation verbatim.

Re: MLBUM, do they say when the runner has been deemed to miss 1B? All body parts past 1B?

Re: removing a helmet, never has been an out, in any reputable code, so they must be squelching a persistent rule myth that keeps coming up.

MT 73 Sun Apr 02, 2017 02:04am

Quote:

Originally Posted by umpjim (Post 1004167)
Re: MLBUM, do they say when the runner has been deemed to miss 1B? All body parts past 1B?

Re: removing a helmet, never has been an out, in any reputable code, so they must be squelching a persistent rule myth that keeps coming up.

It says if the runner has both feet past the base.
Something like that.
I am working a midnight shift so I will quote the rule verbatim later on in the afternoon

bob jenkins Sun Apr 02, 2017 09:26am

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT 73 (Post 1004133)
I was scimming the 2016 MLBUM and saw that a change was made:
If the B/R misses first on a play but beats the throw the umpire is not supposed to call him safe anymore.
He is supposed to make no call at all and wait for an appeal.
Am I reading this correctly?

Yes. It's a change. I don't agree with it, but they didn't ask me. ;)

Quote:

Also--I was reading the 2017 NFHS Baseball Casebook and they say an out should not be called if a runner/batter removes his helmet when the ball is live.
Issue a warning and if it happens again eject.
Is this something new or has it always been so?
It's always been that way.

MT 73 Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:35am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1004173)
Yes. It's a change. I don't agree with it, but they didn't ask me. ;)



It's always been that way.

Thanks.
That is what we do when a runner misses the plate and eludes the tag so I suppose they wanted the same mechanic for 1B as well.


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