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Benchcoach Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:50pm

Interference
 
2 incidents from tonight's game. I will post each separately. I didn't have a dog in the fight.

#2. Swinging bunt tight ropes up the first base foul line, remaining fair. Batter/Runner runs straight down the line toward 1b without contacting ball. F2 follows Batter/Runner up the line and retrieves ball. F2 alters his throw to avoid striking Batter/Runner in back of the head. Throw from F2 ends up in RF. FU calls Batter/Runner Out for interference. Any thoughts?

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:05pm

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Originally Posted by Benchcoach (Post 986866)
2 incidents from tonight's game. I will post each separately. I didn't have a dog in the fight.

#2. Swinging bunt tight ropes up the first base foul line, remaining fair. Batter/Runner runs straight down the line toward 1b without contacting ball. F2 follows Batter/Runner up the line and retrieves ball. F2 alters his throw to avoid striking Batter/Runner in back of the head. Throw from F2 ends up in RF. FU calls Batter/Runner Out for interference. Any thoughts?


Where was the Batter when F2's throw struck the Batter in the back of his head?

MTD, Sr.

umpjim Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benchcoach (Post 986866)
2 incidents from tonight's game. I will post each separately. I didn't have a dog in the fight.

#2. Swinging bunt tight ropes up the first base foul line, remaining fair. Batter/Runner runs straight down the line toward 1b without contacting ball. F2 follows Batter/Runner up the line and retrieves ball. F2 alters his throw to avoid striking Batter/Runner in back of the head. Throw from F2 ends up in RF. FU calls Batter/Runner Out for interference. Any thoughts?

#2. Normally FU, AKA BU, would not have this play. Where was or had been any one of the B-R's feet when this occurred?

In FED and NCAA this can be RLI if the B-R being out of the lane altered the throwing fielder's throw. But it is hard to see this called by the FU/BU unless he knows he's calling with a smitty.

umpjim Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:14pm

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 986867)
Where was the Batter when F2's throw struck the Batter in the back of his head?

MTD, Sr.

Either you or me have a reading comprehension problem or have enjoyed the evening too much. Salut.

Rich Ives Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benchcoach (Post 986866)
2 incidents from tonight's game. I will post each separately. I didn't have a dog in the fight.

#2. Swinging bunt tight ropes up the first base foul line, remaining fair. Batter/Runner runs straight down the line toward 1b without contacting ball. F2 follows Batter/Runner up the line and retrieves ball. F2 alters his throw to avoid striking Batter/Runner in back of the head. Throw from F2 ends up in RF. FU calls Batter/Runner Out for interference. Any thoughts?

What rules?

Rich Ives Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:17pm

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Originally Posted by umpjim (Post 986869)
Either you or me have a reading comprehension problem or have enjoyed the evening too much. Salut.

I got the meaning. Where was the runner relative to HP and 1B.

Benchcoach Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:33pm

Ball was half way up the line when fielded by F2. Call was made by FU.

umpjim Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:35pm

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 986871)
I got the meaning. Where was the runner relative to HP and 1B.

We don't know where he was or if he was struck in the back of his head but thanks for asking although I already thought I asked and Mark asked although he asked where he was when he was hit in the head.

Benchcoach Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:35pm

Batter/Runner was 3-4 steps ahead of ball that was fielded half way up the line.

umpjim Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:37pm

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Originally Posted by Benchcoach (Post 986873)
Ball was half way up the line when fielded by F2. Call was made by FU.

That does not help. Please go to bed and reread the thread throughly tomorrow

Benchcoach Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:37pm

Batter/Runner not hit in head..."F2 altered throw to avoid hitting Batter/Runner in back of head."

umpjim Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:57pm

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Originally Posted by Benchcoach (Post 986877)
Batter/Runner not hit in head..."F2 altered throw to avoid hitting Batter/Runner in back of head."

We still do not know where either foot of the B-R was when the throw was altered which matters only in FED and NCAA.
But strange that this was called by FU/BU unless he knew his PU did not know sheet.

thumpferee Fri Apr 29, 2016 04:58am

Thank you all for the laughs so far!

CT1 Fri Apr 29, 2016 05:57am

If a B/R's illegal position caused the bad throw, then it's INT in FED & NCAA.

And yes, the PU normally makes this call, since he has a broader view, plus doesn't have safe-out responsibility. However, BU can make this call as well.

ozzy6900 Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:41am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benchcoach (Post 986866)
2 incidents from tonight's game. I will post each separately. I didn't have a dog in the fight.

#2. Swinging bunt tight ropes up the first base foul line, remaining fair. Batter/Runner runs straight down the line toward 1b without contacting ball. F2 follows Batter/Runner up the line and retrieves ball. F2 alters his throw to avoid striking Batter/Runner in back of the head. Throw from F2 ends up in RF. FU calls Batter/Runner Out for interference. Any thoughts?

Coach, was the runner in the running lane or not? This is important because if he's in the lane, he cannot interfere with the throw. He is also protected at the end of the lane so he can step out and touch 1st base.

Yes, this is the PU's call because he has the best view.

bigda65 Fri Apr 29, 2016 01:43pm

thoughts -
One mad coach,
and one happy one.
:eek:

Benchcoach Fri Apr 29, 2016 01:55pm

Ozzy:
Yes Batter/Runner was running right in the middle of the lane, literally right down the foul line. I know it was PU's call but it was FU that made the call and prevailed. Like I said I didn't have a dog in the fight. All for me to do was to accept ruling and admonish F2 for not stepping wide of Batter/Runner to execute throw. F2 had more time than he realized.

Rich Ives Fri Apr 29, 2016 03:39pm

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Originally Posted by Benchcoach (Post 986902)
Ozzy:
Yes Batter/Runner was running right in the middle of the lane, literally right down the foul line. I know it was PU's call but it was FU that made the call and prevailed. Like I said I didn't have a dog in the fight. All for me to do was to accept ruling and admonish F2 for not stepping wide of Batter/Runner to execute throw. F2 had more time than he realized.

This is contradictory. The lane is bounded by the foul line and another line 3' into foul territory. Can't be in the middle of the lane and on the foul line.

If the runner's feet were both on the foul line he was OK.

jicecone Fri Apr 29, 2016 06:29pm

18 threads latter?:confused::eek::eek:

thumpferee Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benchcoach (Post 986902)
Ozzy:
Yes Batter/Runner was running right in the middle of the lane, literally right down the foul line. I know it was PU's call but it was FU that made the call and prevailed. Like I said I didn't have a dog in the fight. All for me to do was to accept ruling and admonish F2 for not stepping wide of Batter/Runner to execute throw. F2 had more time than he realized.

Thought you had no dog in the fight! Pick a side!

And stop with the FU! It's BU!

Rats!

umpjim Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:53pm

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Originally Posted by thumpferee (Post 986921)
Thought you had no dog in the fight! Pick a side!

And stop with the FU! It's BU!

Rats!

Time for a troll scan. Even coaches are not this obtuse. Unless this is not a game in North America.


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