Quote:
Originally Posted by Camron Rust
Yet the rules regarding fighting and the behavior of bench personnel are written in the context of it not being an intermission. I don't think you'd treat the 5 people who were the players as if they came off the bench when a fight occurred. They were legally on the floor having been players. You might treat them as bench personnel so far as indirect T's go, however, but not for the purposes of disqualification if they do not participate.
Also, if the true bench personnel were heading towards their locker room, they'd be authorized to do that too. So, I would have no problem not treating them as leaving the bench for a fight unless they showed some sort of aggressive action related to the fight.
|
Yes, I agree. It is important to know in OP that they are bench personnel because of the two players fighting. They go and coach gets indirect and is seat belted.
Now, here's why I'm wondering who I can toss:
As you point out the players on the floor at end of half certainly have a right to be there. When the shot is obvioudly missed the bench has a right to be on the floor. Half over. When the long shot was taken those two players were fairly close together. Chances of the other 8 being right there...not good. Let's say some of the other 8 run to the fight and mouth. Just as the bench kids do. They all have a right to be on floor at that moment. But if they all run to fight am I only going to toss the bench kids?
Frankly, if kids do run on floor in that circumstance and are restrained enough not to get involved I probably woukdnt toss anybody. They didn't leave bench go get involved in fight. They left it cause half over and then went to the fight. I can't see tossing them because they went to fight and not the other 8 if they ran to it. 2 kids started the BS, am I going to kick everybody out and declare game over? I'm just thinking as I go so if I've screwed up on my thoughts go easy.
Read rest of Mulk's post. If the players won't leave the floor there's a a basis to penalize or toss the player separate from the leaving bench stuff. Simply unspotrsmanlike T or Flagrant T and toss.