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Old Thu Sep 22, 2016, 07:40am
Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. is offline
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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. View Post
Without climbing up into the attic, the Ball was taken out-of-bounds on the Sideline at the Free Throw Line Extended when a Dead Ball would go through the Basket immediately following a violation committed by a team in it's Front Court.

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef View Post
I don't even know what that means.
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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. View Post
Two examples:

Play 1: A1 commits a Traveling Violation during a FGA and his attempt goes through the basket.

Play 2: A2 commits a FT Violation during A1's FTA and A1's attempt goes through the basket.

In both Plays, the attempt is canceled because of the Violation. By having the ensuing Throw-in taken on the Sideline rather than the End Line (if that would have been the closet spot to the Violation) indicates that it was a Dead Ball that went through the basket and the score does not count.

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The Casebook said that A2 committed "a" Violation, and in this instance the Violation was Offensive Goaltending.

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It goes back to the 1960s and I pretty sure the 1950s.

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Originally Posted by BillyMac View Post
For all offensive free throw violations when it was the last free throw and the free throw went in. From the Cadillac position, it was always on the right sideline of the free throw shooter. As Freddy stated earlier, it helped the table know whether the free throw counted, or not.

I can't recall if the mechanic was used for all offensive field goal basket interference and/or goaltending violations when the ball went in the basket. I'm pretty sure that it was used for these violations, but I'm not positive. Help us out here Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Make that long trip up to your attic officiating library.
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Sounds like someone who updated the case play was asleep for over 25 years since that was the last time the interpretation would have been correct.

Two apologies in advance: (1) The numerous quotes. (2) Billy, I am sorry for not making this post sooner.

The thing to remember is that when a team in control of the ball in its frontcourt commits a violation which is immediately followed by a dead ball passing through its basket, the throw-in spot is at the free-throw line extended on the sideline closest to where the violation occurred. The spot of the throw-in is to insure to everyone concerned is that it was a dead ball that passed through the basket and that no points were scored.

Since this rule change is to a rule that was enforced during the Ancient Days, I guess one could say that (a) "Time is a flat circle." Or, (b) That the circle of life has been completed. Or, (c) What goes around comes around.

MTD, Sr.

P.S. I wonder if anyone will get the reference: "Time is a flat circle."
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