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Garth & Warren, I hope you know I am relatively new to the forums. I've seen Warren's posts throughout although not necessarily Garth's. I hope you would agree I have attempted to maintain my own dignity anywhere you've seen me on the net. I was not the one initiating name calling or even inuendo, and you'll find very little, if any, of that as response from me to others employing those tactics. Much like Warren, who is extremely dignified in all the posts I've seen from him. That doesn't mean he nor I lack the necessary tools to make our points regarding the conduct of others.
I am unfamiliar with those attacking you in the past, Garth, and upset by those who may attempt to attack Warren. Those ploys are usually used when you lack the tools to make your point legitimately and it certainly detracts from the content of what you are attempting to prove. It's likely you are both good at making your points without need for those tactics. The most disgruntling thing about these forums is, indeed, the conduct. IMO, anybody associated with management of a forum should certainly maintain their dignity elsewhere, despite the cheap shots you take due to your position. If management personnel feel they must respond in an undignified manner, one could use a pseudonym at least elsewhere to maintain your management dignity for your own board. No different than umpiring, I hope you don't go get blistering drunk at the east side pub wearing your umpire uniform. At least change before going if that possibility exists. Wouldn't you agree with that? I do not like to compromise my dignity for any reason, but neither do I like it attacked. Just a suggestion.
Based on what I have seen, I agree that those in your positions take uncalled for cheap shots in numbers well beyond anything that's been done to cause such. Carl, I have seen, has on occassion gone beyond my ethical limits with personal remarks, obviously not beyond his limits. This may be the cause of some of the attacks upon him. However,I don't expect others to accept my ethical limits.
In closing, I have not reviewed my posts but I do not believe that I referred to Carl as a hypocrite as one of you summarized I did---that would be name calling. I did indicate that I felt his actions were hypocritical. That can occur without the knowledge you are doing it. If a person continues doing it after they are aware of it, they THEN become a hypocrite. At least that would be my definition. There IS a difference. Mistakes can happen.
I will bow out of the conduct issue that's been so tread upon thusfar.
It would be nice to understand if arm movement is required by the Fed in feints---fact or opinion. I know that was addressed somewhere along the line.
With Respect,
Steve Freix
[Edited by Bfair on Dec 31st, 2000 at 11:39 PM]
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