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Originally posted by Mike Simonds
My understanding is that PSK would apply because the loose ball play (the kick) also includes the action that takes place prior to the kick...
Let me know what you think...
I'll be back from my "lunch crunch" exercise class at the YMCA in about 2 hours.
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Mike-
My understanding is that your understanding is "incorrect"!
PSK is not in effect BEFORE OR AFTER the scrimmage kick!
The NFHS has stated that it may take 2 to 3 years to work the bug's out of PSK enforcment. The 2003 Rules book and 2003 Case Book wording(s) have conflicts and are confusing.
1) The 2003 rule book in 2-16-2g states "...during a scrimmage kick..."
2) The case book unfortunatly provides no help
3) The NFHS/Referee "FOOTBALL GUIDE 2003" which you should have (or will soon) recieved in the mail clears your play up on page 7 Play 11:
I will reprint it for your convieniance:
Play 11:
Team K's ball, fourth and 10 from it's own 20 yardline. K1 muffs the snap, but gets off a legal kick that goes out of bounds at the 50 yard line. While the ball is loose on the muffed snap, R2 grabs but does not twist K3's facemask at K's 30 yardline.
Ruling:
PSK does not apply because the foul occured before the kick crossed the expanded neutral zone. If K accepts the five-yard penalty, it is enforced from the previous spot and results in fourth and five for K from it's own 25 yardline.
Because the NFHS has written the rule this way it makes it different from the NCAA version. This fact along with the fact that the NFHS Rule Books wordings are "very grey" (to be kind) will make for 2003 a year to remember long meetings nights of discussion over a play that in reality happens 3 times in 1000 punts.
I am also working on a "PSK Simplified" webpage. Check out the work in progress at:
http://www.pfoa.us/index.asp?page=interp
I hope this helps clear up the mud...
-Kevin