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Originally posted by refman
Warren....why do you keep insisting that we're dealing with "judgement" on this 5-page post? I repeat an earlier post that the judgement part of this call is made by ruling out/safe. Judgement is the criteria in all out/safe calls. The pulled foot is simply a frequent occurance that often requires the help of the plate umpire to confirm or deny such an occurance. It's usually noticed by the first base coach and he's generally the one to request you ask for help. Why make this such a tough situation?
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Hey, refman, I'm not trying to make it tough I'm trying to make it easy.
- There is NO GOOD REASON to get help AFTER you've made your judgement decision when you could just as easily have gone for help BEFORE you'd made that decision. THAT was my point.
- If you are FORCED, by circumstances of continuing game action, to make a judgement decision BEFORE you can get help then common sense will show that you CANNOT easily roll back the action that followed in every case.
- There is a list of at least 5 occasions where you CAN roll back game action, and those are the only cases where I would recommend getting help AFTER making the call.
- I would NEVER recommend getting help otherwise when approached by a participant to do so. That's BAD game management. It has nothing to do with salvaging personal dignity for its own sake.
- Any umpiring decision that involves judgement is a JUDGEMENT DECISION.
Now I'm pretty darn sure that I've spelled out these points before, one way or another. I don't propose to spell them out again. For the record, handling such calls the way I suggest has the following benefits:
- You won't NEED the First Base Coach's advice to "get help on that call, Blue". You'll have already done it!
- You won't NEED to overturn your judgement decision. You won't have made one yet!
- You won't NEED to respond to half the number of coach's questioning your judgement decisions that you would otherwise. They KNOW you would have asked if you were straight lined!
- You will earn more respect and improve your game management skills.
The pulled foot call (horrible description) is NOT a case of a rule misapplication. On the information available to the umpire whenever he makes the call, it is a JUDGEMENT DECISION. That is why I "
keep referring to judgement". If you cannot grasp that then I guess we'll have to agree to disagree (A2D).
Cheers
[Edited by Warren Willson on Jul 23rd, 2003 at 12:26 AM]