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Originally posted by fletch_irwin_m
Ok, so I hate being wrong!!
I would wager, based on peripheral vision, that Player A was in BC, jumped to save the ball in FC as it was heading OB and tipped it into BC. I can't swear to it, but I don't need to!
Since I am a believer in "Partnering" I would then say to the coach or whoever that the "3 Points Rule" DOES apply as Player A's feet, while airborne, were still in the BC. By being able to tap the ball IB from the FC establishes control with feet in BC.
My partner did a great job explaining the situation to both coaches and sold it well. I am glad I was still on the opposite side of the floor!
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Your conclusion may be right and you may not...I'm not sure I can tell what you are saying...
However, the "3 points rule" does NOT apply in any form unless the ball is being dribbled. A deflected ball is not being dribbled.
You stated earlier that the ball never touched the floor in the FC and that it was recovered in the BC. However you just said that the player "jumped to save the ball in the FC". I suspect, to reconcile these, you mean that the player jumped
over the FC was actually still in the BC by having jumped from the BC.
If the ball had touched in the FC before the save...it would be in the FC and a violation when recovered in the BC.
If the player had jumped from the FC (no matter where the ball was) to make the save the ball would have FC status the moment it was touched....it would be a violation to recover it in the BC.
I will never mangle the rules just to support my partner. I will not show him up either. I'll save it for after or perhaps, in a few cases, have a private discussion on the spot.
In this case, I'd leave it alone.
I had a partner last season that made a call that may not have been right...I thought not but stayed completely out of it.
The defender was inside the "NBA semi-circle" on a 1-on-1 turnover/fast break. He called a block.
The coach questioned it. He gave an explanation to the coach from 1/2 way across the floor. The only problem was that his explanation was completely wrong rules-wise (He had said that he was under the basket) and the coach called him on it. He then altered the explanation a bit to say that the defender flopped and was still wrong since that still doesn't warrant a block. On the third try, he gave a plausible explanation that the defender moved under the shooter...albeit probalby just to get out of it and not even close to what I saw happen. Even though it was on a break, I somehow managed to get in the frontcourt as the new trail and had a pretty clear look at the whole thing. One I heard his whistle, I fully expected a charge.
Aside from this single incident, he's a great official that I'd work with again.
What I learned from it is
(1) be careful in explaining calls by oversimplifications....some coaches do know the actual rules.
(2) He lost a lot of credibility in that game by cycling through 2 weak reasons before he got to one that had some bearing on the rules.
(3) Even though I think he blew it, I stayed out of it and it passed pretty quickly and we moved on. If I'd gotten into it, how messy could it have become??