[David B]

This thread actually has some good info if you can read through the mess.

Hayes you state your playing "devil's advocate" but it's very obvious from your last post that all you are playing is "trying to save face."

There is no pertinent information for the umpires.

The last post by Carl completely covers all of the points discussed.

I know I don't care about your personal mail or your personal support group "Hayes Davis Anon".

I just want the info that makes me a better umpire and a better instructor.

Now give up the personal facade and stick to the facts.

There are new umpires that we send to these boards and they need good and precise information.

The horse is dead!

Thanks
David