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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
Not what I meant....I was referring to horizontal movement, not jumping straight up.
If that was all that white did, then I'd agree. But that isn't what he did.
You really need to watch that video again.
The only reason that ball is behind white is that the white player kept bumping and shoving the red player farther and farther under the basket while the shot was in the air. White then finishes it off with a dirty move of submarining red by bending over and continuing to move under him. There is nothing acceptable about that.
Even if the first shove didn't occur, I'm still calling a foul on white. They were both moving towards each other. White made no play on the ball. His only action was to undercut red. Whether red had jumped towards him or not is irrelevant in this play. If white had, instead, tried to go up for the ball, then yes, maybe foul on red. But, again, whites only action was to take reds legs out from under him....and that would have still happened even if red had jumped perfectly straight.
No way I'm penalizing red for his actions after being displaced from the spot he had earned or when his opponents only action is to take out his legs.
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I think we're agreed in principle and we're just seeing the sequence different (although I don't think white has to make a play to draw a foul, he merely needs to hold his ground prior to being contacted by red).
I've watched the video about 20 times now and I still don't see white bridging red until white is hit in the shoulder by red's butt. If red jumps straight up, he doesn't get bridged but when you bridge yourself, it's a foul on you.