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					Originally Posted by  Adam
					 
				 
				He was swinging the elbow, so I went with an intentional personal.  Not much room for PC on that, the way I understand the POE (or is it no longer valid?). 
			
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 After reading the OP, I figured intentional, but there are guys I talk to who would consider Flagrant.  Maybe this is just me (?) but for any elbow to go flagrant, I need to see some sort of intent from the elbower.  I don't think it's good practice to look at the damage done and factor that in to intentional vs flagrant.  From PC to intentional?  Yes, I think that the result of that play can be used to upgrade.  But if you have a 240-lb, 6-5 monster in there that elbows a guard on a swing or pivot in which he clearly didn't know the guard was there?  Even if the result looks or seems bad, I'm probably staying at intentional.