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Originally posted by Rich Ives
Warren, two things
FIRST: You said: "You can penalise the subject behaviour either by applying OBR 6.08(c) or by applying 7.07. The offenses are identical."
This is not true. 6.08(c) is for a catcher interfering with the batter. 7.07 is for the specific case where, in addition to the CI, R3 was also trying to steal home on the pitch.
The original play had R3 breaking for home on the play, so 7.07 is the one to apply.
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Rich, I draw your attention to the following passage from the Casebook Comment for OBR 6.08(c):
If the catcher (or any fielder) interferes with the batter, the batter is awarded first base. If, on such interference, a runner is trying to score by a steal or squeeze from third base, the ball is dead and the runner on third scores and the batter is awarded first base. If the catcher interferes with the batter with no runners trying to score from third on a squeeze or steal, then the ball is dead, batter is awarded first base and runners who are forced to advance, do advance. Runners not attempting to steal or not forced to advance remain on the base they occupied at the time of the interference.{"my underlines}
As you can see, OBR 6.08(c) clearly DOES cover the exact same circumstances as are covered under OBR 7.07.
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SECOND: Your post that I "corrected" had THIS play described:
B1 about to take the pitch
R3 starts for home as soon as
Pitcher is in motion to throw
Catcher sees this and JUMPS IN FRONT of Batter and catches the ball.
It was in response to this that you said: "3. Award all stealing or forced runners, including R3, one base."
As this CLEARLY had the catcher jumping in front of the batter, 7.07 most definitely is the rule to apply.
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*sigh* Maybe it was LATE when you read my post, or maybe you failed to read the earlier posts wherein I described the relationship between OBR 7.07 and OBR 6.08(c). Please check the Casebook Comment for OBR 6.08(c) to realise what you have said is
not strictly correct, and that
either OBR 6.08(c)
or OBR 7.07 may be applied in these circumstances. I elected to apply OBR 6.08(c) for the reasons stated. Thank you.
Cheers