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Originally Posted by JetMetFan
There's nothing different about this case play between this year and last year. The last line of the penalty for NFHS 10.4.5 reads:
When a simultaneous technical foul(s) by opponents occurs, the free throws are not awarded when the penalties offset.
The act in 10.4.5 is "(leaving) the confines of the bench during a fight or when a fight may break out," regardless of whether the bench personnel get involved. The penalty is ejection and two FTs for the offended team. That matches up with the rule. The only difference in how it's handled is the effect on the HC. All four players left the confines of the bench so they're all ejected. Each team would be entitled to four FTs regardless of the affect on the HCs so those cancel out.
As far as the OP is concerned, I understand as well. The acts are connected by the same incident but they're still two separate acts.
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Agreed, the play has been in the book for a number of years. Also, agreed that fighting on the court and leaving the bench are separate acts penalized separately. this play addresses each separately also.
i was mentioning this play because what i see that confuses some folks, and what i don't like, is the fact that once you determine the number of personnel leaving the bench are equal you don't shoot free throws under the leaving the bench provisions,--- even when one team's bench people fight and the other's don't. there is another case book play where one player of A leaves the bench and does not fight and one of B leaves the bench and does fight. that play says those offset, no free throws and coach of each team gets one indirect. the penalty in that play is no worse for team B even though the B player fought.
was just throwing it out..correct me if i screwed something up.. thx