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Originally Posted by Pantherdreams
I don't disagree but I would like a solution it the situation it creates:
Team A wants to run an inbounds play where they stack 4 players front to back. Lined up facing the ball.
Team B does not want to allow players to stack so same as in during games play deny their player the ball and try to beat them to spots.
Now you've got live defense being played during a dead ball which means that Team A is going to respond by 1) playing live back (sprint to spots, cutting to get screen angles, etc). 2) Or they are simply going to walk and try to bump push or illegally screen defenders out of the way to get their stack set up.
I'm ok with calling the foul on either team who commits it during the dead ball but you are turning time when one official may be reporting a foul, communicating with table or confering with other officials into a potential moment where players are competeing for space and angles and potentially fouling without even a live ball in a race to spots. If post players where jostling for position during a dead ball we would tell them to knock it off. If one team wants to stack and want team wants to play denial you are setting up a situation where they may need to compete at live speed during dead balls.
I only bring it up because before we started making the stack give room thats what was happening. As soon as a violation or OOB was called and the offense called for their inbounds play defense was going full deny while offense was trying to jog or walk to spots. Causing bumps and shoving to occur as Team A is trying to get to a spot and during and dead ball Team B is now beating them to spots and forcing them to take the long way round or not get the spot they expect which they didn't they would just try to walk through to their spot and react badly because it was supposed to be a dead ball.
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The rules say every player is entitled to a spot on the floor if they get there first…. If two A players stack in front of the rim very close together or 4 players in yours, and i see a B trying to force his way in i will tell the B player "they were there first and you are not allowed in." firmly. that has always solved it for me.
if it doesn't you need to penalize. if you have commotion fighting for spots before the throw in you need to talk to players and/or penalize. When you separate the players in the stack that may make things easier for you and your crew but you are affecting the game by changing the rules. many stack plays won't work the way they are supposed to when you let a player in. you force the coach to call another play.