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Originally Posted by just another ref
Like Rut, I actually have a problem with "2 touches = foul PERIOD" Conceivably there could be 2 touches by the same defender on the same ballhandler 2 minutes and 80 feet apart, with neither touch alone amounting to anything, but...........
But, "Contacting the player more than once"..... is plain language. Is this to be interpreted literally? We shall see.
On the other hand, "Placing and keeping and hand on the dribbler." provokes just as much of a question for me, if not more.
Keeps it there for how long? A second? Some fraction of a second?
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JAR, two touches on the same BH/dribbler 80 feet and two minutes apart is conceivable but there's also a reality component: How many times does the same person keep control of the ball for 2 consecutive minutes in a HS game? However...if you had a stall ball situation like the 2012 Oregon 5A GV championship and:
*A1 was touched once by B1 in the backcourt
*A1 moves into the frontcourt and maintains player control for a few minutes, then
*B1 touches her again
There should be a foul called on B1. You're right, neither touch amounts to much but some might argue standing and holding the ball for minutes at a time isn't great either (I know that's more aesthetic than rule-based but sometimes the two mix).
As for "placing and keeping a hand on the dribbler," I'll admit that can be a tough one to navigate. The ideas suggested to me have been:
*Dribber = 2 bounces
*BH = a count of two/the amount of time it used to take us to say "hands."