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Old Sun Aug 17, 2014, 12:07pm
BillyMac BillyMac is offline
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Bet Your House ???

The NFHS wants you to bet your house on the answer to this written test question:

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Originally Posted by BillyMac View Post
A1 dribbles into the front court and stops his/her dribble, holding the ball with two hands. Subsequently A1 fumbles the ball, which bounces twice on the floor. Without the ball being touched by any other player, A1 picks up the fumbled ball with both hands and then pushes the ball to the floor, at which point the official sounds his/her whistle and calls an illegal dribble violation on A1. Is the official correct?
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Originally Posted by just another ref View Post
yes
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef View Post
no
Who loses their house?

Let's go to the written rule, and definition:

9-5: A player shall not dribble a second time after his/her first dribble has ended, unless it is after he/she has lost control because of:
ART. 1 A try for field goal.
ART. 2 A touch by an opponent.
ART. 3 A pass or fumble which has then touched, or been touched by, another player.

4-15: ART. 1 A dribble is ball movement caused by a player in control who bats (intentionally strikes the ball with the hand(s)) or pushes the ball to the floor once or several times.
ART. 3 The dribble may be started by pushing, throwing or batting the ball to the floor before the pivot foot is lifted.

In the written test question, has the player pushed the ball to the floor once, and thus started a dribble? Yes.

In the written test question, has the player committed an illegal dribble violation? Yes.

In a real game, I'm waiting to see what happens after the ball hits the floor. If the player doesn't touch the ball again, then I'm calling it a pass, not a dribble, and I'm not calling the illegal dribble violation.

On the other hand, if the NFHS were holding a gun to my head, forcing me to bet my house on the correct answer, by the book, based on the written rule as it presently stands, to this question, I'm calling it an illegal dribble violation. I want to keep my house.

Wouldn't it be nice if the NFHS cleaned up this rule, and definition, to reflect what we, here in the trenches, call in a real game?
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