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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
Jrut
Whoa! I would reply but I got lost in the middle somewhere. I guess you don't tell coaches, but it isn't clear why other than the simple reason that rules can be ignored if nobody told you to follow them. I understand not calling the bizarre, calling a game the way it is done in your region, etc. But this rule seems an odd one to exclude. You are right that coaches should know, and most do, but it seems a strange place to take a strong stand.
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This is not about exclusion, it is about importance. If a coach cannot count, than that is just too bad. If you are relying on me to tell you something I am not personally keeping track of, then you probably should not be coaching. This is not football where we are the main people that keep track of this. In football, the officials are the "official book" if you will. At that stage of the game, I am usually talking about things that affect us on the floor. Who has the last second shot? What kind of shot that team might take? If we have a double whistle, what are we doing? How much time is on the clock? Can they team take a shot or just tip the ball? Are we going to rotate to get good coverage, or are we going to lock down? I might even say, call the first foul, Team B wants to lengthen the game. Depending on if the timeout is a 30 or 60, that might not be a very long conversation. I have better things to do.
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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
It is a rule, and, as I read the initial post, all of the guys at the camp got it right. Most said tell the coach or an assistant, none appear (from what was written) to have stated go into the huddle to give that notification, and one said don't go into the huddle. All of that is valid.
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Well at the camp I was at this past weekend, they told us to not going looking for that information. If the scorer calls you over and tells you, nothing wrong with that. But if no one says anything, you do not worry about it. And that is the application I adhere to. And that has always worked for me and the partners I work with on a regular basis.
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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
We coaches have a brief time in a TO to focus and send a specific message to our team. DO NOT interrupt that conversation to tell us we are out of timeouts. You can easily inform us when we are done with the TO or tell an assistant (who, as a team representative, can then decide whether or not to interrupt the TO with this info). I know the rule says head coach, but if I would allow any discretion, it would be to tell a member of the coaching staff and not limit it to the head coach.
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What if we tell the assistant, are you going to get mad at us if he does not tell you? I really do not expect you to answer that, but if the rule is so important, then we have to tell the person the rules state is important, right? BTW, it does not say "head" coach, just coach. But then again in my years of doing varsity and college ball, this never becomes an issue. Especially when the coaches already know this information through their own scorekeepers. Maybe if I was doing a lot of Freshman ball and the table personnel was a teenager, this might be a bigger factor. But because adults are the ones that I see, this is never a factor. Just like the scorer can tell a coach how many fouls his star has, they usually tell them how many timeouts and what kind of timeouts they have.
Peace