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Originally Posted by JetMetFan
So here's the upshot on this play from one of my assignors/supervisors (I sent them the original clip, not the super slo-mo): it's a player-control foul.
Why? The defender established LGP and and did not lose it prior to the illegal contact by the BH/dribbler.
How? The defender had two feet on the floor and her torso was facing her opponent. There's nothing in the LGP rule requiring the rest of her body to come to a halt for LGP to be established.
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Again, it is not about establishing LGP...she had that. But there are ways to lose it.. I quote the rule:
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ART 3. After the initial legal guarding position is obtained...
The guard may move laterally or obliquely to maintain position, provided it is not toward the opponent when contact occurs.
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By this rule, she lost it after having gained it.
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Originally Posted by JetMetFan
What about the "movement" by the defender? "Movement" is generally thought to involve the feet and the defender didn't create/cause the contact.
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I think your assignor is wrong about movement. Why? Players don't play defense by sticking their feet in front of their opponents. That, alone, even if both are on the floor is not sufficient. Defensive position is about the body. The feet are merely a marker used to indicate when in time LGP is obtained but the body is what is doing the guarding and what is regulated by the guarding rule.
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Guarding is the act of legally placing the body..."
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Both players created contact since both were moving towards each other. Plus, creating contact isn't illegal and is a bad way to define who gets the foul.
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Originally Posted by JetMetFan
My assignor/supervisor agreed with my statement that verticality allows the defender to rise/straighten herself since that's written into the rule.
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That is true. But that isn't what this player did. There was absolutely no vertical element to this play.