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Originally Posted by Pantherdreams
The player on the floor has the ball.
I can jump to make a play on the ball. (Vertical or Horizontal). If we end up tied up vertical/horizontal then that isn't creating contact and now are in equally advantageous/disadvantgeous position, and any contact that happens after this now needs to be judged in terms of excess or rough play not.
By saying "diving on" and "slam into" you make it sound like every play on the held ball is a Jimmy Snuka Super Splash. There are any number of possible outcomes that result in all or part of a player on top of the player holding the ball they tied up by jumping.
IF the player is standing and i dive at the ball and chop block the player in the process = foul. If i Jump at the ball and tie it up and end up belly to belly standing or slide/fall to my butt once the ball is tied end up wrapped around his leg with my lower body . .. etc. Then these are making contact but not slamming or throwing around and could be seen as incidental.
Same with a player on the floor I can leave my feet at a player on the floor to make a play on the ball and have any or all of my body end up on the player and have" jumped on". Location of the ball, whether or not I needed to make contact first to gain access to the ball, how much contact ends up being made, whether its reasonable amount of contact given the level/age/game/previous calls etc. . .all come into play.
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I can't believe you're even trying to make that point.
Landing on top of another player is always going to have a lot of force...usually 150 to 200 pounds of force. That much force IS rough play.