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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
The rules are indeed clear. The rules define a try as starting when they start the shooting motion (with no qualification that they complete it).
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Correct, 4-41-2 says a player is trying for goal when the player has the ball and in the
officials judgement is throwing or attempting to throw for goal". The way I use my officials judgement is through the process that I have explained several times before: I wait until I see the whole play start, develop, and finish and then make my decision on the whole play, not just one aspect. If a player is trying to shoot, they will continue to shoot. If the player passes, he is not trying to shoot.
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
The rules also say that what follows doesn't matter....they don't have to release the shot.
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Correct again. They do not have to release the shot.....but if they try to pass then the try is over; they are no longer shooting and thus are no longer entitled to FT's.
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
You're trying to call it judgement but it really isn't.
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I don't need to call it judgement. The
rules themselves call it judgement. You are the one contradicting the rules here -- you are saying this is not s judgement when the rules say it is.
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
You've already admitted that you decision isn't based on how the rules define a try (which is clearly defined in the definitions) but something else that is not in the rules.
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False. My view correlates with what the rulebook says, and I feel I have explained it well. I am not throwing out how the rules define a try, or how they define the start or end of a try.
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
Nothing in the rules support outcome based decisions.
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The rules clearly say it is up to the officials judgement. In my judgement, I use outcome-based decisions. Why would I do otherwise? I cannot read a players mind, I can only call what I see.