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A foul committed by a defender as a player is coming down into a jump stop qualifies (to you) as the start of the habitual throwing motion?
I'm as liberal of a person as there is at trying to put a foul on the shot, if possible, but I'm not going that far. A shot can certainly follow a jump stop, but so could a pass. To me, we haven't gotten to the start of the habitual throwing motion yet. The foul is before the shot.
Show me a case play that changes my mind.
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