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Old Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:38pm
Afrosheen Afrosheen is offline
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Originally Posted by JRutledge View Post
I did not say anything about it was never prudent to come to a partner. Not only do I go to partners on calls they ask for help, I have gone to them when I see the entire play. Unlike you I come with definitive information, not questions. This is also something I talk about in pre-game every time. Did you do that in your situations?
The only time I'm coming up to my partner on a play like I had where I'm not on top of the play is when my partner might be kicking the rule, and I say might because of the very fact that I'm not on top of the play as I did not have definitive knowledge. Unfortunately, in this instance, my approach was bad as I did not make my request to confer to be short and quick and respectful, and that I will change.

Still I will go up to my partner when he possibly kicked a rule. For instance, in my first year of officiating I called a ten second count in the backcourt during the girls game. If my partner did not come up to me and tell me there isn't a ten second count in girls, it would have been a situation where my ego, pride, self-respect added insult to injury as my ignorance of the rules was not corrected because my partner did not want to "offend" me. Screw that. If I'm ignorant of something, whether it's the rules or anything definitive that my partner saw, I'm more than willing to consider what he has to say if he wants to confer. And thus vice a versa. That's how it should be.

Check your egos at the door, this is a basketball game, and you're the officials whose purpose is to maintain the integrity of the game.


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Originally Posted by JRutledge View Post
I had a situation last year where I was the New Trail on a press coverage defense and a pass was thrown to the middle of the court and the Center called a BC violation that involved multiple touches of the ball. The coach wanted me to change the call and my answer to him was simple, "He is standing right there, neither you or I saw what he saw." I was no where near the division line or the play and if I questioned his call that would have been the wrong thing to do considering I had no information or anything to add. The official was a playoff officials with similar experience I had and if he did not know the rule, nothing I could do in that situation to do to help him. And I am pretty confident he knew the rule. And I told the coach, if you want an explanation, "Ask him when he gets over here, I am sure he will tell you what he saw." We did not hold up the game, we did not need to discuss the play on the court. We did discuss the play in the locker room (like I told you to do) and he confirmed what he saw and why it was a violation. Actually my partner confirmed what I already knew. I guess you feel I should tell him how much more I know than him, even with the fact I did not see the play in question.

Peace
If it's a rule botch as in the video that AremRed posted, it doesn't matter what your positioning is as your position doesn't mean that the rules all of a sudden change. I would still go up to him and tell him the rule and ask him if the player violated that rule. If he says yes, I'm running back to my spot.

Last edited by Afrosheen; Mon Oct 28, 2013 at 01:53pm.