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Old Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:04am
Afrosheen Afrosheen is offline
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Where were his feet when he caught it? How could you see so clearly from the end line where his feet were? There's no way I'm doing anything in this play, to be honest, from the way you describe it.
Left foot in the frontcourt, right foot in the backcourt. I stood a couple steps below where the Center would stand. That's your approach, to which I disagree as I believe the integrity of the game requires it.

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Most likely, when the coach starts crying, I'm going to respond by just shaking my head as I go to put the ball in play. At most, he'll get a "You'll need to ask Bob when you get a chance." More likely, nothing. He doesn't get to ask for a conference on a play so obviously out of my realm just because he thinks the call was wrong.
"Out of your realm" isn't the way the rulebook describes your secondary. It shouldn't be out of your realm. If a felony occurred in your secondary, and your partner did not call it, you better pick it up as that would be a travesty as to have two officials not call something something egregious would be extremely embarrassing. And when it comes to approaching your partner, I've been taught approach your partner when it's only absolutely necessary like when you got info that he may not have considered, which this play fits the bill.

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I ask again, what made you think your partner didn't know the rule? You really haven't given that answer.
He's an inexperienced official, with a troubled past who at times kicks calls during the game and likes to call three seconds in the key a lot, which I told him that could be more of a preventable call if he's willing to communicate to players. I expect the officials who are working varsity games to know the rules. When I'm working AAU games, I'm expecting the opposite, especially when I'm working with 2 or 3 year officials.


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Again, I can't think of any way I would approach a partner on a violation call he made where all of the action took place in his primary coverage area.
So you don't call anything ever in your secondary? Well that's unfortunate, and I guess if I was your partner, I would have be extremely concerned not to miss anything in my primary as my partner isn't going to be willing to pick up anything that I might miss.


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You mentioned the need/desire to get the call right, and I can understand that, but I just don't see this play as something that needs addressed on the court. Ask him at second dead ball if you have a question about what happened. Calling 50 feet away should be reserved for making obvious calls that need to be made to "save the game", such as hard fouls and train wrecks. Trying to overturn a hair splitting violation? I wouldn't.

It does make for great post game conversation, though.
Well I guess Tom Izzo in the play recorded above would hope that you'd not ref his game as he would have not been fortunate enough to have an official confer with his partner on a missed call in order to get it right.

Last edited by Afrosheen; Thu Oct 24, 2013 at 01:23am.