[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by shagpal

Nah, I'm not blaming the ASA for adult childish behavior. That is inherently built into the the game and modern society. But utrip is openly and blatantly pro SP player. You seldom hear of a any utrip guys coming to umpire forums lamenting about cry babies and ejections, because the umpires are the players. I haven't been over to softballfans for sometime, they might lament a bit there, but my guess is nowhere as much as ASA umps here.

But in city rec leagues for SP, if it is still ASA unformed umpires, the only relationship ASA wants is the fees it charges to umpires, players and league to register and insure, and bat checks for liability. Its only obligation to the umpire is covering injury and assault. Most localities wised up and either went utrip or plain blue and self insurance or W2 status. Utrip was a solution to the problem, not the problem. Utrip was an alternative and a way out of ASA auspices which provided basically nothing but rules for mandatory tribute.

If you are an ASA umpire in a local rec league wearing ASA, good luck, because you are on your own. And what surprises me is that these umpires seek forums to find support, and still don't get any straight answers from many of the staunch ASA members here. Go figure.

But USSSA required my money ($10.00 more per year) as "tribute," required that I have both the red shirts and the navy shirts (plus they have many other colors), that I wore their uniform, (black AND grey pants as well), and that I was insured through them. Or at least the affiliation for the local league required that. Not sure that I am getting this difference you are speaking of.....seems a bit of the pot calling the kettle if you ask me.