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Old Wed May 28, 2003, 06:33am
IRISHMAFIA IRISHMAFIA is offline
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Originally posted by TCBuffy
Here it is.
ASA 14U.
Bases loaded. Bunt to F5 throw to F2 who has foot on plate. F2 catches ball which beats R. R slides taking out F2. PU calls R out. As they both get up glove (ball still in it) are on ground. 3B Coach appeals, DROPPED BALL.
PU consults BU and changes call to SAFE. Def. Coach argues dropped ball after the out doesn't apply on a force and has to settle for a protest.
The PROTEST: After game PU and BU state neither saw the glove come off. Def. Coach again argues that PU obviously saw an out occure (ball caught catchers foot makes contact with plate before runner) so dropped ball doesn't apply on a force out so why the change in the call.
What did Def. Manager do wrong in making a case for this poor call.
Nothing, 'cause s/he shouldn't have had to make a case if the play happened as you stated. Unless the glove came off instantaneously with the catch, an out occurred. The ONLY thing the BU could add to this was that from his/her angle, s/he saw that the catcher never controlled the ball (which you did not include in your scenario, so I assume that is not the case).

Actually, the manager should have gotten the PU to admit that the catcher, at some point, had control of the ball which would lock in an "out" call.

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