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Originally Posted by LIUmp
NYSSO rules (ASA) Rules, though I'd like to know if there's any difference with other rule sets.
R1 on 2nd, R2 on 1st, 0 out. B3 bunts a soft line drive just over the pitcher toward F6. Pitcher attempts to catch, but it hits her glove and pops in the air where the F6 comes in and makes a shoestring catch.
No call on the catch is made, nor is a call on the ball hitting the ground.
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Well, other than you cannot have a "bunt" line drive over the pitcher's head
, where does you play say anything about the ball hitting the ground?
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F6 throws to 2nd, and then F4 throws to first. DC yells, "triple play!" R1 advances to 3rd, R2 advances to 2nd. No tag of any runners is made. No call is made at either base.
BU calls time and asks plate ump if F6 caught the ball. They get together and determine that F6 DID catch the ball, but also that, at the time the ball hit the pitcher's glove, both runners were on their base at that moment, but then left the bases as soon as the ball was tipped. They rule B3 out on the catch and the runners are safe at 2nd and third. 1 out.
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Okay, but lacking a call, the defense played the ball appropriately.
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I wasn't there, but my questions -
WHAT?
At the "instant" it hit the pitcher's glove, you mean to tell me that both umps, or at least one ump, SAW that the runners were touching their bases?
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Did they see them OFF the base? With the ball in the air, I can understand a runner holding/returning to the base. Either way, there is not going to be anymore than the out on the catch. Worst case scenario is that the runners are returned to their respective base at the time of the touch.
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With no call being made, did this not cause some confusion for the defense/offense? Seems like one team made out quite well here.
Seems to me, and I only say this because one of the umpires involved is known for this, that this is a case of being an OOJ.
But maybe I'm wrong.
I know the rule, I am just asking about how the umpires handled this.
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Let's just say, it could have been handled differently, but not necessarily wrong as we were not there to say it was wrong.
But based on your play, if I were asked to rule on the play, I would probably react as I posted earlier, call the out on the catch and return the runners to 1st & 2nd.