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Bob, I thank you for your honest reply. Carl seems to think I am a joke ss I disagree with him at times requesting more documented information and not just accepting opinion.
Premise of question was per Fed rule:
I understand what you are saying in that there is NO ARM MOVEMENT whatsoever, and that Fed casebook 6.2.4d refers to the step and the feint as 2 separate points. Good Point. But again, it also refers to "feinting with a shoulder"! I would hope you agree that it means you can feint without arm movement. I also hope you would agree that IN REALITY a pitcher legally stepping to a base and having no motion whatsoever (i.e., dropping of hands, splitting of hands, arm motion) is highly unlikely. However, "not feinting a throw" is quite possible and occurs frequently with the R2 scenerio.
I see point at issue here as whether there has to be a "feint of a throw" in order for the move to be legal. Carl's response to his question was that F1 balked because "he did not feint a throw". I do not feel the rules nor interpretations REQUIRE a "feint of a throw" as opposed to any type of legal feint. Such legal feint could be the body movement itself after legally stepping to base.
If we require the "feint of a throw" in Carl's situation, then we should require it in the R2 pickoff scenerio. If Carl is correct in his interpretation, that would mean we have been missing the balks on the R2 scenerio for years.
I can't see pemalizing F1 in Carl's situation for "not feinting a throw" while continuing not to pemalize F1 for "not feinting a throw" in the R2 scenerio. That is highly inconsistent.
Does JEA or J/R address requirement of arm motion as part of a feint??
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