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				Is there no virtue among us? If there be not, we are in a wretched situation. ... To suppose liberty or happiness without any virtue in the people, is a chimerical* idea. - James Madison
			
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 I find it interesting that an apparantly bogus post under the name of Jason A.  has shown up on McGriff's just 2 days after I mentioned on this site that I would be using that handle over there.
SamC 
*chimerical - existing only as the product of unchecked imagination : fantastically visionary or improbable