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Originally posted by chris s
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Originally posted by IRISHMAFIA
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Originally posted by chris s
We are working on that, I saw the discrepency myself. We are doing "intercity" baseball in my PONY leagues. some have differing innings allowed for F1's and the "EH".
This SB story, ump should have been at site 1/2 hour before game and handled ALL of this "slide" stuff before hand, as well as any other conflicting rules.If the leagues can't agree, I am darn sure something is agreed upon before starting a game . Like I said before, i do not think ump handled this like a real 'PRO" amatuer ump....
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I completely disagree. This is not the umpire's job.
The umpire comes and works a ball game under a particular set of rules. Whatever else these teams play should be left at the gate.
If this is a league or tournament which mixed rules (Forest Gump Ball), it is the administrator's job to insure that all concerned are properly informed. The only thing the umpire should be covering pre-game with the teams is the line-up and ground rules.
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
Very strongly disagree Mike. You show up for a game you are assigned, teams skippers disagree on a certain ground rule.YOu make the desicive ruling on it, correct?? Admin does not always do the job, as this article inadvertantly points out. This is why a good, (if not great) plate meeting is advised.When playing "inter-city", I have found it very usefull to make sure EVERYBODY is on the same page, and why not....show up well before start time and make sure you have no probs.
IMHO, this ump plain F#####-ed up, first by not determining a "slide rule" or not and having differing rules figured to a happy medium. 2cd, by opening his stupid mouth after he has already pissed off half the folks and coaches, and third, by not having a set of rules in hand to govern this type of ball!!!( Now that is an Admin prob).
Put yourself in this sit, what would you do?? Inquiring mind wants to know.... )
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A. This is not a "ground rule".
B. The pre-game is not a rules clinic. The rules are set before a game is even scheduled by the appropriate sanctioning body. A game is either played under rule Set A or Set B. Not the umpire's call.
C. As the umpire, I make decisions, not rules.
D. I would have had no problem in that situation. As folks who work with me and those who have been on this board a while will tell you, I am anal about the rules. I don't tell coaches how to run their team or play their game. If they are playing in a league or tournament sanctioned by a set of rules with which they are not familiar, that is not my problem. I don't tell parents they cannot take their children off the field. If they want to harass me on the way out, it may very well become a police issue. I don't even tell players they cannot fight. That is not my problem. I am the umpire, not the babysitter. My job is to observe, make a decision and announce the ruling in the manner described by ASA. Why ASA? Because if the game is not ASA or ISF, I am not on the field.
E. I don't care where the game is being played. I don't care if the surface is dirt, clay, grass or asphalt, the rules remain the same. I have worked games in the middle of nowhere and in the middle of the projects, but the rules remain the same.
[Edited by IRISHMAFIA on May 14th, 2003 at 06:28 AM]