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Originally Posted by Manny A
Really? I guess I may have a fundamental misunderstanding of when a tag attempt is actually made. I don't consider the start of a turn towards the runner as a tag attempt, since the runner could be well away from the fielder when he starts that turn. I feel the tag attempt took place when Wieters lunged for Ichiro, and at that point Ichiro just twisted to avoid.
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Your point and mine are about a quarter of a second apart. My point was not to hash the difference between that quarter second, but rather to point out to most of those that think he should be out that he was ALREADY 3 feet from that white line before the tag started, and that HIS basepath is established when he's already that far away. I think we agree that this is NOT an example of running out of the baseline (not even close in my opinion)
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By your description, Ichiro would have had to turn into the tag as soon as Wieters caught the ball.
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I said nothing of the sort, not even close.