Quote:
Originally Posted by maven
OK. Here it is:
"A place kick is a legal kick made while the ball is in a fixed position
on the ground or on a kicking tee. No material or device may be placed on the
ground to improve the kicker’s footing. The ball also may be held in position on
the ground or on a kicking tee by a place-kick holder who shall be a teammate of
the kicker. A place kick may be used for a scrimmage kick, a kickoff, a free kick
following a safety or for a free kick following a fair catch or awarded fair catch."
I'm still seeing "fixed position" to mean "on a tee" (with or without a holder) OR "held in position on the ground" by a holder.
Tony (and by implication, Rich) assert otherwise. So far it seems mere assertion with no rule backing, but I won't bet against the world.
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It seems as though you agree that it doesn't HAVE to be on a tee, but the last part that I marked ("may") is the part that seems to me to be the part that allows K to kick it from the ground without a holder if they want.