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Old Sat Apr 26, 2003, 02:06pm
CecilOne CecilOne is offline
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A while back, we discussed a batter running on a 3-0 strike call, assuming or pretending it was ball four. Here is a comment I made then:
"I would have an opinion (an umpire judgement) on whether the batter was being dumb or deceitful. Assuming dumb, run scores and the batter returns to bat. Shame on defense. Assuming deceitful, run scores, batter DQ for USC. Most likely, I would assume dumb and not DQ the batter. However, if I smelled deceit by coach, batter out for interference (really stretching NFHS 7-3-5) or "abandoning" (really stretching 10-2-3-g)."

There is an analogy here, both were batters running when the shouldn't and I think my confused (not dumb) or deceitful point applies here too. You said runners off at the pitch, which implies stealing and if so, leave them there. If you think the batter ran to deceive the defense, then deal with it, but you still can't return the other runners because the ball is live and (as mo99 said) the defense is supposed to know what's going on.
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