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Old Tue Aug 07, 2012, 03:06pm
Camron Rust Camron Rust is offline
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef View Post
I have no problem with anybody saying they would miss this call in real time as I'm sure I would also.

But to say that watching the replay that you don't see the ball clearing the net and then hitting AI in the chest before passing back up through the basket is bewildering.
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Originally Posted by mbcrowder View Post
OK, I just went back and looked, frame by frame. There is one frame where it appears the ball has just contacted the player, and the top of the ball is behind net (from the POV of the camera). Depth perception is impossible to see in 2D, and it is not clear at all (especially looking at the immediately preceding frame) that the ball is not still contacting the net.

I grant you that the ball is likely beyond the point within the net where it's making enough contact to still snap the ball back up - but if we're judging BI vs Basket, the ball is not beyond the entirety of the net, and is not clearly lost contact with the net either.
Exactly, there is no way in the video linked above that anyone can conclusively say it cleared the net. There may be other videos with different angles that allow for that conclusion, but not this one.

At no time was there any complete clear line looking between the ball and the net. They were overlapping in the angle available. You simply can not conclude whether it was touching or not.
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