View Single Post
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 25, 2012, 08:27pm
marvin marvin is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 117
If this is the report to the state ruling body it is too long and wordy IMO.

The ejection report should be confined to the act that the coach committed that caused him/her to be ejected.

Quote:
In the bottom of the fourth inning. Bases loaded, 2 outs, batter has two strikes. The pitcher delivers the next pitch. Batter swings at the pitch. The pitch hits her hands and rolls forward. My call is "Dead ball strike" Rule7 Section2 Article g. and since this is the 3rd strike I call her out.
Good call.

Quote:
The home team head coach, comes out and says "She is in the box. That's a foul ball"

I respond that "Her standing in the box has nothing to do with it coach"
A better response would have been that the batter was struck by a pitched ball - not by a batted ball. Since she swung at the pitch it is a strike.

Quote:
He says "I got a hundred bucks that says that that is a foul ball if she is standing in the box"

I respond (And I know I shouldn't have!) "That I got five hundred that says a dead ball strike has nothing to do with her still being in the box"
The conversation should have ended at this point. Nothing was being added to the discussion that was on point. When the coach offered the wager the conversation should have ended.

Quote:
Then my base umpire comes over
I agree 100% that you should never enter a discussion/conference between your partner and a coach unless you see that you need to separate them.

Quote:
and asks me "What's up" I tell him that "The ball hit the batter while swinging and I called a dead ball strike"

My partner tells me "That's a foul ball" I shake my head no in disgust, and say "No it's not"
The BU was totally wrong to initiate discussion with the PU while the coach could hear them, but the PU was also wrong for letting the BU engage him while the coach was still there.

Quote:
Of course, the head coach the hears my partner, and says to me "Are you going to let your call stand!" And I say "Yes coach."
This would not have happened if the PU had handled the situation correctly, even with the gaffe by the BU.

Quote:
Now to the top of the seventh inning. An assistant coach is catching, warming up the pitcher. When he is done he says to me "I am going to contact (xxxxx), tell him about the horrible call you made, and give him our email address so you can send us the five hundred dollars you owe us!"
As I wrote earlier the "wager" should have never happened. IMO, it was unprofessional and just put gas on the fire of a bad situation.

Quote:
I said "That fine coach"

The assistant coach says "Well you are wrong"
I say "Well maybe coach, but I don't think so"
The assistant coach says "Well you are wrong, and you know you are wrong. Why don't you read the rule book and learn the rules."

I tell him "That's enough coach"
The assistant coach says "Your wrong and you don't know the rules"
I again say "That's enough coach"

He then pick up his rule book and says "Here's the rule book, do you want to read it?"
I then tell this assistant coach "You need to leave the game coach"

I took some enforcement from the head coach to finally get the assistant coach to leave the game.
The asst. coach was justly ejected, but better handling of the initial situation might have prevented it.

Quote:
This is the first coach I have ever kicked out of a game. I hated doing it. Here is my thoughts. Had my partner not come up to me unasked, and said loud enough for the head coach to hear that I was wrong and that the call should have been a foul ball, none of this would have happened.
Both the umpires and coaches should be striving to present a professional demeanor and to be an example of good sportsmanship to the players. In this situation both parties failed in that regard. I do feel that the ejection of the coach was justified, but better handling of the original situation might have prevented it.

As mentioned earlier in the thread the BU was way out of line in his behavior. In every situation you have to take the action that supports your partner.
__________________
I am not multi-ruleset. NFHS only.
Reply With Quote