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JRUT
I only quibbled with your statement of ALWAYS. I hope if you teach, you understand the difference between usually and always. Always means without exception. You now grant exceptions, therefore my point that you saw fit to argue - girls ball is not always subordinate to boys, although it frequently is.
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Yes, Women's basketball is always subserviante to Men's or Boy's basketball in my opinion. If it was not, then they would not be trying to market one dunk (Lisa Leslie) on the level they they did. I am not talking about attendance.
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As for ABL, it didn't have the financial backing that the WNBA had, and I think they also went through the roof on player salaries. The WNBA worked to put them out of business, and succeeded. But I think backing an ABL with NBA cash, and not making them compete with WNBA, would make the whole thing more viable. Who knows?
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They did not have to try very hard. I mean the CBA came back.
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You are right that the current market won't sustain the WNBA, another point I readily grant. I also said that it is hard to say whether further investment will pay off, or whether it is already time to give up. I think that the success of the Mystics, even without winning championships, might be cause to analyze their success factors and try to align with those factors across the league. One of those factors, IMO, is the presence of a strong women's sports market. When successful teams can't draw fans, maybe they need to be in a different market.
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Let me ask you this, who are they going to play against if the rest of the league cannot make money? I guess maybe they can play New York and LA, because I think they make some money too.
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The NFL left LA, UCLA doesn't sell out home football games against marquee opponents - maybe it's not the place to put a football team or a women's basketball team. And maybe other places that do well with men's sports are the wrong place as well, while Storrs Connecticut may sell more tickets than major pro men's markets. Just a thought.
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We can all dream. But the Rams left and thrive in St. Louis (I am a fan BTW). The NFL thrives because of their TV deal and they actually sell tickets. That is a novel idea. If this had to do with the a league and not gender we would not be talking about this. I said the same thing when the ABA 2000 started and it has folded or dropped almost completely off the map. And folks like yourself said, "it is a great idea, it will work you will see." Cannot even find anything on the net about it. Give it some time, the WNBA will be in the same situation, if the players do not wake up and realize they are not the NBA. I am sure we will all be talking about WNBA draft and the who the Washinton Mystics will add to their "great" collection of players.
Peace