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Originally Posted by MrPlywood
re: giving Hess the benefit of the doubt - Hess himself has been quoted as saying he's got thick skin, and he's yet to say exactly what Corchiani and Gugliotta said to get through that skin. The FSU AD was right there and has stated that the two former players didn't say anything out of line. Others near the two, including people at the scorers table, have corroborated the FSU AD.
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Who gives a crap what the FSU AD thought? They are not in a position to know what their actions are over the top or would mostly follow the lead of the official when a fan gets out of line. That just weakens your argument on so many levels. Also, Hess does not owe anyone an explanation but the ACC and his supervisor and his supervisor comes first in that explanation. He does not have to tell the media, or you and me anything.
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Originally Posted by MrPlywood
As far as reputation, again, plenty of posters here give Hess the leeway and pile on the two players while admitting that they don't know what was said, but "it must have been something". So, yes, Hess has officiated tons of games. And he recently blew a crucial, obvious goaltending call in the WVU/Syracuse game. So there's a mistake he has made. He's not infallible.
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Are you an official? The reason I ask is because most of us that have been doing this for some time know there are things fans have said that are over the top and got them removed from games. That means we do not need to know what was said to know it is very possible to get ejected for not much being said. Heck I was with an AD of a HS last night and he was telling me things about a game where the officials did not even eject the individual, but the AD pulled the trigger based on this fan's conduct. You act like there are magic words that are said and not an overall behavior that is considered unacceptable. If you were an experienced official that would be obvious to you.
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Originally Posted by MrPlywood
Corchiani played 124 college games and was never ejected, and at one point was the all-time NCAA assists leader (he's still second). That sounds like pretty good street cred to me. Corch and Gugliotta were sitting with their families and have said there was no profanity, stated their case, yet Hess has remained curiously silent.
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So what??!!!
He also did not play in this era where there are more scrutiny towards behavior for all involved and I bet if he mouthed off to officials back when he played, the officials probably used saltier language to get their point across. Have you ever heard guys in the NBA back then when they were miced up back in the 80s? They would us just as foul language as the players and tell them off in ways we would never think was OK today. Officials back then did not have to T up players back then the same way they are expected now. And if they did, they did not have the same environment.
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Last but not least, for all you law and order types, Hess has reffed plenty of games in Cameron Indoor within earshot of the famous profanity laced rantings of Coach K and the Crazies, and amazingly, he has tossed no one.
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The Camron Crazies are not sitting behind the scorer's table either. And it is totally different when a bunch of people are yelling together, when a fool sits in a spot where his actions are going to be recognized in a sea of thousands of people. It was also reported that these guys were warned by security independent of this ejection for their behavior. So I guess the security or police were just saying something to him because of Hess? Again you said we do not know what was said, I have not heard you say what he said either. Actually you have no idea and like many guilty people they do not admit to what they actually did. I am sure he said a little more than just telling the official they are having a bad night. Most fans never say anything that tame, they usually accuse officials of everything short of being a child of God.
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Originally Posted by MrPlywood
Admit it, Hess had rabbit ears and over-reacted. If he had a real reason, why not clear the air?
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Admit that you have no idea what that even means. If want to do something that is going to get you noticed, be smart enough to place yourself in a place where no one will know it is you. Obviously the education they give at NC State was not good enough to realize that sitting behind the scorer's table is not a good spot if you want to run your mouth and stay. They should have sat away from the floor and maybe their actions would not have drawn attention. But then again, you know what was said right? Because if he said something racially, sexually or very personal about someone's family I doubt they would be staying very long. Paying your money gives you the right to watch the game, not to say and do what you want. Or can you read the fine print on most tickets at events like this?
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