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Originally Posted by ballgame99
part of my confusion is that most on this board agreed that this defender was NOT vertical and therefore fouled the shooter.
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There was no arm contact in the OP play we have been talking about. The contact with with the mid-section and with a airborne shooter flying to the basket on a vertical leap of the defender. Also the contact did not displace the shooter. The defender was where they were going to be and the shooter ran into them. Not the same play.
but somehow the OP defender WAS vertical. He was able to come from the opposite side of the lane, gather, and transfer all of his momentum to go strait up and maintain his verticality. I don't see it.
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Originally Posted by ballgame99
The first time I saw the Duke highlight above I thought, man that seems to be splitting hairs to call that a block. What did that guy do wrong? I resigned myself to the fact that I just need to look at these plays differently. Then the OP play comes on here and the answers just seem to be so contradictory.
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Again these are not the same play. The Duke player might have started vertical at some point, but then put his arms down and hit the shooter's arm. The OP there was no contact with the shooter's arm. Then to add to the OP, the ball was blocked first and the remaining contact was incidental because it did not prevent the shooter from doing anything they would not have normally done. I do not even think the Duke player made any contact with the ball where we could then let some other minor contact go. The play you just showed is a foul all the way. There is not even consideration to incidental with an illegal defender.
Peace